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Old 05-15-2009, 05:35 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Leovigildo View Post
In 1997, 36.9% of second-generation Cuban-Americans had an income greater than $50,000 versus 18.1% of Anglo- Americans. Cuban-Americans were twice as likely to earn more than $50,000. Also, approximately 11% of Cuban-Americans had incomes greater than $100,000 versus 9% of Anglo-Americans, and less than 2% of other Hispanics.

You have what my Latin friends call a "complejo " ( complex ) yes Cubans are great .... now get a life .

 
Old 05-15-2009, 06:06 AM
 
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Leovigildo wrote,

"Other Hispanic groups lag far behind. Only 18.1% of South Americans had a bachelor's or better. Puerto Ricans, despite being U.S. citizens by birth, recorded a disappointing 11%; Mexican Americans only 7%. "


Lie

http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/censr-18.pdf

Re-read the US Census Bureau (trustworthy and realiable finally!) weblink that you provided.


Page 11 ...


The educational attainment
of Hispanics varied
by group.

• In 2000, over half of the Hispanic
population aged 25 and over
(52 percent) had at least a high
school diploma, and approximately
1 in 10 had earned a
bachelor’s or higher degree
(10 percent). Compared with the
total population, Hispanics were
less likely to have completed at
least high school or college.
Among Hispanic groups,
Spaniards and South Americans
had the highest proportions with
at least a high school diploma
(77 percent and 76 percent
respectively), while Mexicans and
Central Americans had the lowest
(about 46 percent each).
The proportion who had attained
at least a bachelor’s degree varied
considerably: 30 percent of
Spaniards, 25 percent of South
Americans, 21 percent of Cubans,
12 percent of Puerto Ricans,
11 percent of both Other
Hispanics and Dominicans,
10 percent of Central Americans,
and 7 percent of Mexicans.


Again, (maybe you must read things twice to understand them)


Among Hispanic groups,
Spaniards and South Americans
had the highest proportions with
at least a high school diploma
(77 percent and 76 percent,
respectively),
The proportion who had attained
at least a bachelor’s degree varied
considerably: 30 percent of
Spaniards, 25 percent of South
Americans, 21 percent of Cubans,


They are using Percent( %) of population, so it does not matter which is the largest or minor latin group... they are using percentages based on the respective population of each nationality. (that`s very important when you analize the information)


Leovigildo Wrote,

"Pa' que te enteres, Contreras."




yeah..."pa` que me entere" that eventhough Cubans have free college education + free housing + food stamps + legal status they have managed to be number 3 behind Spaniards and South Americans in bachelor`s degreed and high School diplomas obtained



Note:

I used your own source from the US Census http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/censr-18.pdf

(very trustworthy , unlike those cubano articles written by Cubans)....


Ohh lord...


An immigrant group which has enjoyed of free college education + food + housing + legal status can`t be number 1 in bachelors degrees and high schools diplomas obtained....not even number 2... Cubans are number 3!

that takes abundant ignorance and laziness....


Congrats Cubans



Leovigildo wrote,

"Cubans comprise less than 4% of the U.S. Hispanic population, Mexicans 65%, Puerto Ricans 10%, Central and South Americans 11%, and "others" 10%. Yet of the top 100 richest Hispanics in the U.S., more than 50% are of Cuban descent (ten times what it should be on a population basis), and 38% of Mexican descent. The rest is scattered among all other Hispanic groups."




Again .... you made second mistake... (I suppose you are trying hard to manipulate the facts... it`s in your genes I suppose)


Lie...


Please re-read your weblink
(http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/censr-18.pdf Page 3).


South Americans represented 4% of the hispanic population, and Central Americans 5.1%.


4 + 5.1 = 9.1% not 11% as you stated


Don`t you know basic math?

...ohhhh...that`s right...you probably don`t have a bachelor`s degree or even a high school diploma....






http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/censr-18.pdf Page 3

There is more.... please read

(This U.S. census statistics are very interesting, many thanks for sharing the weblink with us Leovigildo.)

Page 12 http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/censr-18.pdf


Among Latino groups, the labor
force participation rate of men
was highest among Central
American and South American
men (76 percent and 75 percent,
respectively) and lowest
for Cuban and Other Hispanic
men (about 63 percent each).
South American women had the
highest participation rate among
all the Latino groups (59 percent),
while Cuban women had
the lowest (49 percent).



Wow...Cubans are just not uneducated but lazy as well

I suppose Cubans want to always get everything for free ...

that`s how they live in Cuba... free housing... education...they don`t work...

Now, they want to do the same in U.S....they are number 3 in education... and they don`t work.




Moreover,,, it is getting better
Page 6 http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/censr-18.pdf

Among the Hispanic groups,
Cubans were the most likely to
be married, followed by South
Americans, Mexicans, and
Spaniards. Cubans were also
more likely to be separated,
widowed, or divorced than any
other Hispanic group.


I suppose that Cubans don`t have family values... wow...

Uneducated, Lazy, Lack of family values...




There is more,


Page 8

Cubans had the highest proportion
(41 percent) of naturalized
citizens of all the Hispanic
groups.

Wow... this country opened its doors to you Cubans...and they gave you all the tools to become citizens and this is how you thank our country???

By being... all of the above.



Lastly,

Leovigildo wrote,
"In 1997, 36.9% of second-generation Cuban-Americans had an income greater than $50,000 versus 18.1% of Anglo- Americans. Cuban-Americans were twice as likely to earn more than $50,000. Also, approximately 11% of Cuban-Americans had incomes greater than $100,000 versus 9% of Anglo-Americans, and less than 2% of other Hispanics. "



Where did you take this NONSENSE BS from? What`s is the reliable/trustworthy Source?

Are you dreaming?? ohh my god... this is an insult to anyone who has a decent IQ....

This is the last time that I answer to one of your Lies Leovigildo...



SOURCE: U.S. Census. (the most realiable source in our nation)

I hope that you don`t post stupidities about Cubans that were written in non-reliable magazines... no magazine compares to the U.S. Census of United States of America and its professional/highly skilled/unbiased employees.

Last edited by Eduardo983; 05-15-2009 at 06:34 AM..
 
Old 05-15-2009, 06:13 AM
 
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US Census Bureau

I'm talking about the US Census Bureau, not about the biased perception of immigrants from a Third World Country.
 
Old 05-15-2009, 06:16 AM
 
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Cubans lead list of wealthy Hispanic Americans

Hispanic Times Magazine , August-Sept, 1997
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The March, 1997 edition of Hispanic Business magazine notes that 80 Hispanic Americans or their families have amassed a wealth of at least $25 million.
Forty percent of these wealthy Latinos are of Cuban descent, while 32 percent are of Mexican origin, and 9 percent are of Puerto Rican descent. The remaining 19 percent are represented collectively by the other Latino national group living in the United States. In 1996 less than 5 percent of all Hispanic Americans were of Cuban descent.
Thirty percent of the wealthy Hispanics live in the state of Florida, followed by California (18 percent), Texas (11 percent), and New York (8 percent).
Greater Miami (Dade Country) is the metropolitan area with the largest concentration (29 percent) of these well-to-do Latinos (Mimi Whitefield, "Cuban Americans Top List of Rich Hispanics," The Miami Herald, March 5, 1997, p. 1A).
 
Old 05-15-2009, 06:22 AM
 
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Eduardo

You went to the wrong place.
You should have migrated to Guatemala.
 
Old 05-15-2009, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Heidelberg, DE by way of Jonesboro, GA
325 posts, read 643,555 times
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dadeguy View Post
funny.

speaking in generalities (which is hardly ever a good thing) latin america is a mess. latin america is going on 700 years of european led exploitation and who really knows how long of native abuse prior to the arrival of the spaniards. I'll begin by quoting hatuey the taíno cacique just before he was burned alive at the stake, a priest asked him if christianity and belief in christ was the faith he would accept and go to heaven. Hatuey asked "Are there Spaniards in heaven?" When the priest assured him that there were many, Hatuey replied "If Christians go to heaven, I do not want to go to Heaven".

that same fictional cuban boy who can recite you facts in english (as you incorrectly claim) is probably not just selling contraband to tourists but is a prostitute as well.

mr. castro has indeed managed to bring the standard of elementary education to the highest level in the world. unsubstantiated claims of 99.9% is what I have seen. whether the real figure is less than claimed is largely academic I agree that the elementary level of cuban education is at a higher percentage than the united states and furthermore of better quality.

those are the pros to mr. castro's regime now let's examine the cons.

with mr. castro's stifiling of the cuban economy what emerged almost immediately was a thriving black market. in time this black market has become very sophisiticated. due the nature of black market economies where people are forced to steal from the government (in cuba's case) people are forced to become liars, pilferers and thieves. since the castro regime owns everything then all cuban citizens must become criminals by definition. what has happened in cuba is that you have ten million highly experienced criminals. you have well educated women who become jineteras (prostitutes) in order to buy basic needs. cuba is probably the leading destination for the euro sex holiday trade in the world and that would include every manner of sex and sexual deviants. guess what they do when they land upon our shores? do you think that they suddenly experience a paradigmatic shift in their philosophy?

now on to the rest of the americas. I had the oportunity to work extensively in all of the americas and much of the caribbean. I have been in every country in central and south america often for months long stays as I was responsible creating networks of distribution for north american and european products lines.

I know the americas very very well. I am completely fluent in spanish and portuguese and am told that I speak with no perceptible accent though in portuguese they can't quite place from what region I come.

I can tell you with the complete certainty that comes from thirty years of business dealings, the character of the latin american (in general) is universal. never mind that one place is amerind, the other african and the third euro the jamaican adage of out of many, one people applies.

save your rhetoric for the gullible. I'll end this rant with the assertation that I completely understand that there is good and bad in all people and even in every individual including myself. I look for the good in everyone and take measures to mitigate the potential harm that is a factor in all human relationships however I do have an issue with attempting to clear from my mind the image of the well dressed porteño smoking a cigarette leyendo el clarin para ver a quien caga hoy.





have you heard of alienware computers? the company was started by friends of mine. they were bought out by dell. dell is having major issues with their cuban programmers at alienware due to major communication issues with these programmers. speaking "english" is not speaking english.
Wow...very interesting....
 
Old 05-15-2009, 06:28 AM
 
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Yes, very interesting if you are a monolingual HS dropout living in Dade.
 
Old 05-15-2009, 08:06 AM
 
Location: miami, fla. enjoying the relative cool, for now ;)
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hello all, I just read through the new posts in the thread. Lo and behold, I'm a prophet. the hispanics are already dragging each other into the mud of their own making.

I like to catch crabs, when you go crabbing you need a recepticle in which to collect your harvest but you don't need a lid because if you have more than on crab in the basket, though they are able climbers as one attempts to climb out the others will drag them back to their doom.

thanks for the chuckles this morning and thanks for proving my point.

to he that does not know let him learn, if you have nothing nice to say it's better to say nothing at all.

you are viewed with skepticism and perhaps even revulsion by the greater american culture. you do yourselves no favors putting down fellow latins in any context. it makes YOU look bad when do you participate in slanderous dialog. I don't see why we don't understand this and yes, you are all the same.

have a great weekend, all the best!

 
Old 05-15-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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Originally Posted by dadeguy View Post
hello all, I just read through the new posts in the thread. Lo and behold, I'm a prophet. the hispanics are already dragging each other into the mud of their own making.

I like to catch crabs, when you go crabbing you need a recepticle in which to collect your harvest but you don't need a lid because if you have more than on crab in the basket, though they are able climbers as one attempts to climb out the others will drag them back to their doom.

thanks for the chuckles this morning and thanks for proving my point.

to he that does not know let him learn, if you have nothing nice to say it's better to say nothing at all.

you are viewed with skepticism and perhaps even revulsion by the greater american culture. you do yourselves no favors putting down fellow latins in any context. it makes YOU look bad when do you participate in slanderous dialog. I don't see why we don't understand this and yes, you are all the same.

have a great weekend, all the best!

Dude .. you sound like you have some hatred in your heart there buddy .. have you ever been to Canada .. most people are Anglos just like in the US yet they are not crazy about us ( Americans ) and they criticize us continually for being supposedly ignorant , boisterous , violent , gun loving and egotistical .. I like Canada but I do feel there is some envy in Canadian dislike for us Americans ... Asians have their rivalries as well , do you think the Chinese and the Japanses are enamored of one another ... neither like the Koreans ... I went to college with many people from the Middle East and Africa .... Jordanians did not like Saudis and Egyptians did not care for the Lebanese none liked the Palestinians , Nigerians did not like Ugandans and on and on .. yet the all still hung out and socialized ... a bit hypocritical ... yes but harmless .. have you ever been to Europe .. it is the same way all Anglo Saxon - Germanic cultures and they "rag " on each other constantly ... it is annoying but harmless , like what you see here with the Cubans and other Hispanic thing ... I guess this proves your theory wrong and no they are not all alike . What is scary is your eloquent
and hateful rant towards Hispanics .
 
Old 05-15-2009, 09:02 AM
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eduardo983 View Post
Leovigildo wrote,

"Other Hispanic groups lag far behind. Only 18.1% of South Americans had a bachelor's or better. Puerto Ricans, despite being U.S. citizens by birth, recorded a disappointing 11%; Mexican Americans only 7%. "


Lie

http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/censr-18.pdf

Re-read the US Census Bureau (trustworthy and realiable finally!) weblink that you provided.


Page 11 ...


The educational attainment
of Hispanics varied
by group.

• In 2000, over half of the Hispanic
population aged 25 and over
(52 percent) had at least a high
school diploma, and approximately
1 in 10 had earned a
bachelor’s or higher degree
(10 percent). Compared with the
total population, Hispanics were
less likely to have completed at
least high school or college.
Among Hispanic groups,
Spaniards and South Americans
had the highest proportions with
at least a high school diploma
(77 percent and 76 percent
respectively), while Mexicans and
Central Americans had the lowest
(about 46 percent each).
The proportion who had attained
at least a bachelor’s degree varied
considerably: 30 percent of
Spaniards, 25 percent of South
Americans, 21 percent of Cubans,
12 percent of Puerto Ricans,
11 percent of both Other
Hispanics and Dominicans,
10 percent of Central Americans,
and 7 percent of Mexicans.


Again, (maybe you must read things twice to understand them)


Among Hispanic groups,
Spaniards and South Americans
had the highest proportions with
at least a high school diploma
(77 percent and 76 percent,
respectively),
The proportion who had attained
at least a bachelor’s degree varied
considerably: 30 percent of
Spaniards, 25 percent of South
Americans, 21 percent of Cubans,


They are using Percent( %) of population, so it does not matter which is the largest or minor latin group... they are using percentages based on the respective population of each nationality. (that`s very important when you analize the information)


Leovigildo Wrote,

"Pa' que te enteres, Contreras."




yeah..."pa` que me entere" that eventhough Cubans have free college education + free housing + food stamps + legal status they have managed to be number 3 behind Spaniards and South Americans in bachelor`s degreed and high School diplomas obtained



Note:

I used your own source from the US Census http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/censr-18.pdf

(very trustworthy , unlike those cubano articles written by Cubans)....


Ohh lord...


An immigrant group which has enjoyed of free college education + food + housing + legal status can`t be number 1 in bachelors degrees and high schools diplomas obtained....not even number 2... Cubans are number 3!

that takes abundant ignorance and laziness....


Congrats Cubans



Leovigildo wrote,

"Cubans comprise less than 4% of the U.S. Hispanic population, Mexicans 65%, Puerto Ricans 10%, Central and South Americans 11%, and "others" 10%. Yet of the top 100 richest Hispanics in the U.S., more than 50% are of Cuban descent (ten times what it should be on a population basis), and 38% of Mexican descent. The rest is scattered among all other Hispanic groups."




Again .... you made second mistake... (I suppose you are trying hard to manipulate the facts... it`s in your genes I suppose)


Lie...


Please re-read your weblink
(http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/censr-18.pdf Page 3).


South Americans represented 4% of the hispanic population, and Central Americans 5.1%.


4 + 5.1 = 9.1% not 11% as you stated


Don`t you know basic math?

...ohhhh...that`s right...you probably don`t have a bachelor`s degree or even a high school diploma....






http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/censr-18.pdf Page 3

There is more.... please read

(This U.S. census statistics are very interesting, many thanks for sharing the weblink with us Leovigildo.)

Page 12 http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/censr-18.pdf


Among Latino groups, the labor
force participation rate of men
was highest among Central
American and South American
men (76 percent and 75 percent,
respectively) and lowest
for Cuban and Other Hispanic
men (about 63 percent each).
South American women had the
highest participation rate among
all the Latino groups (59 percent),
while Cuban women had
the lowest (49 percent).



Wow...Cubans are just not uneducated but lazy as well

I suppose Cubans want to always get everything for free ...

that`s how they live in Cuba... free housing... education...they don`t work...

Now, they want to do the same in U.S....they are number 3 in education... and they don`t work.




Moreover,,, it is getting better
Page 6 http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/censr-18.pdf

Among the Hispanic groups,
Cubans were the most likely to
be married, followed by South
Americans, Mexicans, and
Spaniards. Cubans were also
more likely to be separated,
widowed, or divorced than any
other Hispanic group.


I suppose that Cubans don`t have family values... wow...

Uneducated, Lazy, Lack of family values...




There is more,


Page 8

Cubans had the highest proportion
(41 percent) of naturalized
citizens of all the Hispanic
groups.

Wow... this country opened its doors to you Cubans...and they gave you all the tools to become citizens and this is how you thank our country???

By being... all of the above.



Lastly,

Leovigildo wrote,
"In 1997, 36.9% of second-generation Cuban-Americans had an income greater than $50,000 versus 18.1% of Anglo- Americans. Cuban-Americans were twice as likely to earn more than $50,000. Also, approximately 11% of Cuban-Americans had incomes greater than $100,000 versus 9% of Anglo-Americans, and less than 2% of other Hispanics. "



Where did you take this NONSENSE BS from? What`s is the reliable/trustworthy Source?

Are you dreaming?? ohh my god... this is an insult to anyone who has a decent IQ....

This is the last time that I answer to one of your Lies Leovigildo...



SOURCE: U.S. Census. (the most realiable source in our nation)

I hope that you don`t post stupidities about Cubans that were written in non-reliable magazines... no magazine compares to the U.S. Census of United States of America and its professional/highly skilled/unbiased employees.

Was all of this data really necessary .... how about them Dolphins resigning Jason Taylor ???
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