Lack of respect in Miami (restaurants, move to, train)

[ray1945]

Originally Posted by Rock Newman

I disagree with you 100% ... other than sharing the same language both groups were and are completely different .

You are entitled to your opinion. Did you live in Miami during the early 60s?

I grew up in a working class family - my parents were children of Italian immigrants: my father was born in Italy, my mother was first generation American. Our standards for behavior were not that elevated. Even so, we found the habits of the first wave of Cuban refugees to be decidedly low class.

The folks who are posting that the early 60s refugees were high class and well educated are misrepresenting the majority of those who escaped to Miami. They may have had the money to effect their escape, but that money was not necessarily associated with class and education.

[traveler36]

I wasn't born in Miami but was raised here since age 3. I don't know if it's rudeness or the fact that everyone in Miami is out for themselves. I travel the U.S. and abroad and you are able to strike up conversations, ask for directions or assistance w/ no problem in "most" places, even in places like NYC, which have the reputation for being rude. Miami is in a category of itself. I've usually say hello to people with a smile when I was out and about and they look at you as though you are crazy or going to beat them up.

[Leovigildo]

Traveler

I live in a very cultured city, according to Tourist Brochures, but if you say hello to people with a smile, most people would think:

1. You are from a sect and you're asking for money.
2. You want to sell something.
3. You are part of a group of Eastern European "pickpocketeers" trying a diversion, so another can snatch your wallet.
4. You are insane.
5. You are retarded.

[Leovigildo]

Ray

It's just a question of cultural perceptions.
For example, when I visited New York I was horrified by the Italians there.
I assume they were Italians, they looked like Italians, they moved their hands like Italians but they spoke some English dialect.
I assume they were very good people, but that was their way.
By they way they behaved, I assumed they were originally from Calabria, Campania, Apulia or Sicily.
For first visitors, their behaviour was shocking, but it doesn't mean a thing.
I bet they were good people.
I guess it takes getting used to.

[vpcats]

Originally Posted by BCreass

The guy I sit next to at work is Cuban, but of pure German ancestry.

You did get my point didn't you? Hispanic race???? HELLOOOOOOOOO

[ray1945]

Originally Posted by Leovigildo

Ray

It's just a question of cultural perceptions.
For example, when I visited New York I was horrified by the Italians there.
I assume they were Italians, they looked like Italians, they moved their hands like Italians but they spoke some English dialect.
I assume they were very good people, but that was their way.
By they way they behaved, I assumed they were originally from Calabria, Campania, Apulia or Sicily.
For first visitors, their behaviour was shocking, but it doesn't mean a thing.
I bet they were good people.
I guess it takes getting used to.

The original conversation was about how much better the first waves (pre Mariel) of Cubans were as compared to the low class waves of refugees that followed.

My comments were that as an observer of ALL waves of Cuban refugees, I have not seen much of a difference in their behaviors.

For what it's worth, I knew that I was observing Cubans - there was no assumption.

And, yes, you do get used to it.

[traveler36]

Originally Posted by Leovigildo

Traveler

I live in a very cultured city, according to Tourist Brochures, but if you say hello to people with a smile, most people would think:

1. You are from a sect and you're asking for money.
2. You want to sell something.
3. You are part of a group of Eastern European "pickpocketeers" trying a diversion, so another can snatch your wallet.
4. You are insane.
5. You are retarded.

LOL I totally get what you're saying. I'm not walking around with a hello for everyone that crosses my path and a Jack Nicholson smile from The Shining. I mean when you are in places where it would be normal to greet people or carry on a conversation. These situations seem to be non existent in Miami and also I think "mentally challenged" is the politically correct word and I'm not that.

[vpcats]

I took these pics just for you all.

[vpcats]

didn't somebody want guarapo a few days ago?

[compelled to reply]

Wasn't this originally supposed to be a rude people thread?