Lack of respect in Miami (Miami Beach, West Palm Beach: condo, movie theater, live in)
MiamiMiami-Dade County
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To those of you who don't like negative threads, I suggest you put this one on "ignore mode".
The one major thing that bugs me about Miami and Miamians is the general lack of respect that people have here. Before you jump down my throat, consider the fact that I'm not looking for the "have a nice day" type of attitude, nor do I care if people say "hi" to me in the elevator. In fact, I'd be perfectly fine in New York, where I'd be completely ignored and even shoved, because it's a big, crowded city.
Miamians general lack of respect tends to manifest in the following ways:
- Reckless driving, i.e. cutting people off, tailgating, excessive speeding and red light running = no respect for the law, pedestrians or other drivers
- People here tend to play loud music more than most places = no respect for their neighbors
- People here are extremely noisy in general, at whatever time. Case and point, I live in a relatively decent condo building, yet people go to the pool and start screaming, as if it were their own personal beach.
- If you're leaving an elevator, people entering the elevator will always barge in first.
- Many people here simply refuse to speak English and will get pissy with you if you don't speak Spanish.
- The "in your face" type, who refer to everyone as "bro" (usually Kendallites).
Those are just a few examples of the lack of respect and consideration that I experience here on a daily basis.
(waiting for someone to say that it happens everywhere -- it does, but just not quite as often as it happens here).
To those of you who don't like negative threads, I suggest you put this one on "ignore mode".
The one major thing that bugs me about Miami and Miamians is the general lack of respect that people have here. Before you jump down my throat, consider the fact that I'm not looking for the "have a nice day" type of attitude, nor do I care if people say "hi" to me in the elevator. In fact, I'd be perfectly fine in New York, where I'd be completely ignored and even shoved, because it's a big, crowded city.
Miamians general lack of respect tends to manifest in the following ways:
- Reckless driving, i.e. cutting people off, tailgating, excessive speeding and red light running = no respect for the law, pedestrians or other drivers
- People here tend to play loud music more than most places = no respect for their neighbors
- People here are extremely noisy in general, at whatever time. Case and point, I live in a relatively decent condo building, yet people go to the pool and start screaming, as if it were their own personal beach.
- If you're leaving an elevator, people entering the elevator will always barge in first.
- Many people here simply refuse to speak English and will get pissy with you if you don't speak Spanish.
- The "in your face" type, who refer to everyone as "bro" (usually Kendallites).
Those are just a few examples of the lack of respect and consideration that I experience here on a daily basis.
(waiting for someone to say that it happens everywhere -- it does, but just not quite as often as it happens here).
It does happen everywhere to a degree , but this "ghetto " attitude is far more common in Miami Dade than in most major metropolitan areas .. you come up to Broward and you can see the difference almost immediately ... not that there is not some of that mentality in Broward but it is far less common than in Miami Dade .. I can sense the difference as soon as I cross the Dade / Broward line . Note that I think Miami / Miami Beach have some beautiful scenic areas , some terrific restaurants and night life but it would be so , so much nicer with out the "ghetto " mentality so prevalent especially within young male Hispanics .
I hate say this but, you are describing the Cuban Culture to a tee, and the other people in the community have to adapt to this crass mentality of the Cuban culture. Other hispanic cultures are more reserved, quite and polite compared to Cubans. So its not Miami, its the Cuban culture.
- Reckless driving, i.e. cutting people off, tailgating, excessive speeding and red light running = no respect for the law, pedestrians or other drivers
I saw that all the time in Madrid, Boston, New York, and other places. Even in Seattle.
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Originally Posted by BCreass
- People here tend to play loud music more than most places = no respect for their neighbors
Really? I haven't experienced that in Miami. People in Boston and New York played music pretty loud as well.
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Originally Posted by BCreass
- People here are extremely noisy in general, at whatever time. Case and point, I live in a relatively decent condo building, yet people go to the pool and start screaming, as if it were their own personal beach.
Latin people are generally more noisy than Anglos, except when Anglos are drunk. And African-Americans... not known to be quiet.
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Originally Posted by BCreass
- If you're leaving an elevator, people entering the elevator will always barge in first.
Happens to me all the time in New York, especially on the subway. Honestly, that hasn't happened to me much in Miami.
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Originally Posted by BCreass
- Many people here simply refuse to speak English and will get pissy with you if you don't speak Spanish.
I have never in my life experienced someone who has "refused" to speak English with me. Many people I know speak little to no Spanish and have no problems with English only in Miami. This whole "people refuse to speak English" thing is one of the most overblown lies I have ever heard. It has gotten absolutely out-of-control on this forum.
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Originally Posted by BCreass
- The "in your face" type, who refer to everyone as "bro" (usually Kendallites).
I don't know what you mean, actually. But how does this translate to lack of respect?
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Originally Posted by BCreass
(waiting for someone to say that it happens everywhere -- it does, but just not quite as often as it happens here).
Well, you guessed right. I've experienced rude people all over the world and quite frankly, people are friendlier, quieter, and better drivers in Miami than in many places in Europe, Latin America, AND many places in the US.
I hate say this but, you are describing the Cuban Culture to a tee, and the other people in the community have to adapt to this crass mentality of the Cuban culture. Other hispanic cultures are more reserved, quite and polite compared to Cubans. So its not Miami, its the Cuban culture.
You grew up in Kendall with middle class Cubans and should know better when saying that this is "Cuban culture." If all of this stuff is "Cuban culture," why is it so prevalent in large cities all over the western world? I will tell you with a straight face that I have met people like this from the American South, from the Midwest, from the NW, from the NE, from Europe, from Latin America...
You grew up in Kendall with middle class Cubans and should know better when saying that this is "Cuban culture." If all of this stuff is "Cuban culture," why is it so prevalent in large cities all over the western world? I will tell you with a straight face that I have met people like this from the American South, from the Midwest, from the NW, from the NE, from Europe, from Latin America...
I didn't grow up in Kendall. I agree its all over the world, but many people will say the crass mentality is something that came with the Cubans. Other South and Central Americans are more reserved people over all than Cubans. Cubans are generally loud, pushy, etc. people.
I saw that all the time in Madrid, Boston, New York, and other places. Even in Seattle.
Really? I haven't experienced that in Miami. People in Boston and New York played music pretty loud as well.
Latin people are generally more noisy than Anglos, except when Anglos are drunk. And African-Americans... not known to be quiet.
Happens to me all the time in New York, especially on the subway. Honestly, that hasn't happened to me much in Miami.
I have never in my life experienced someone who has "refused" to speak English with me. Many people I know speak little to no Spanish and have no problems with English only in Miami. This whole "people refuse to speak English" thing is one of the most overblown lies I have ever heard. It has gotten absolutely out-of-control on this forum.
I don't know what you mean, actually. But how does this translate to lack of respect?
Well, you guessed right. I've experienced rude people all over the world and quite frankly, people are friendlier, quieter, and better drivers in Miami than in many places in Europe, Latin America, AND many places in the US.
Crisp, you like Miami, that's fine. I'm not taking that away from you, but everything I've posted is based on personal experience, having lived here for quite a few years now. Like you, I have also lived in and been to several other cities and other countries, but Miami ranks at #1 for having the least amount of respect and common courtesy.
It does happen everywhere to a degree , but this "ghetto " attitude is far more common in Miami Dade than in most major metropolitan areas .. you come up to Broward and you can see the difference almost immediately ... not that there is not some of that mentality in Broward but it is far less common than in Miami Dade .. I can sense the difference as soon as I cross the Dade / Broward line . Note that I think Miami / Miami Beach have some beautiful scenic areas , some terrific restaurants and night life but it would be so , so much nicer with out the "ghetto " mentality so prevalent especially within young male Hispanics .
Rock, you're right. In fact, the last movie I saw was at a movie theater in West Palm Beach. The difference was staggering -- people shut the f**k up as soon as the movie started, cell phones were turned off and even the children were quiet. I've been to many a movie theater here in Dade where the movie was completely ruined by idiots who have absolutely no sense of respect and were determined to be as annoying as possible.
I hate say this but, you are describing the Cuban Culture to a tee, and the other people in the community have to adapt to this crass mentality of the Cuban culture. Other hispanic cultures are more reserved, quite and polite compared to Cubans. So its not Miami, its the Cuban culture.
In fairness, I've seen loud, obnoxious people from all races and all walks of life here in Miami. I think this city just tends to attract the wrong kind of people, from all walks of life. This is a "loud" city, in general. A person who is generally quiet and reserved will have a harder time fitting in here, or will get walked all over.
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