If South Florida and in particular Miami is so bad, then why so many Europeans love it so much? (Hialeah: real estate, hotel)

[robertobaggio]

I personally think South Florida is pretty spectacular and very close to my idea od paradise considering you are not in the middle of the ocean but on mainland.

[somebodymiami]

Originally Posted by PBCboy

Miami is definitely not the only place in the U.S. where European immigrants come to. Furthermore, it's not typically the "average" Europeans that come here. Many of them move to the wealthier areas of the county (for example, Aventura, Sunny Isles Beach and parts of North Miami Beach has plenty of European immigrants but working/lower class areas like Sweetwater, Hialeah, and Cutler Bay do not).



Why do so many whites live in Florida then? Florida has more whites than any other race and this sure as hell isn't a "cold" state.

word i know many German and Irish people that live in Hialeah and the sweetwater area. as i live in that area, and use to live in Hialeah. oh yeah im German.

and most if not all my family that comes down, come for the beaches and warm weather. because if you've ever been to Germany, you would know that the weather is very depressing over there, as it is always cold and raining.

[svendthrift]

Alright, use data now. If you're going to be making these huge statements about patterns of migration from Western Europe to create a silly narrative about Caucasians etc, you're going to need to supply data.

[robertobaggio]

Originally Posted by svendthrift

Alright, use data now. If you're going to be making these huge statements about patterns of migration from Western Europe to create a silly narrative about Caucasians etc, you're going to need to supply data.

Miami - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
While commonly thought of as mainly a city of Hispanic and Caribbean immigrants, the Miami area is home to large French, French Canadian, German, Italian, and Russian communities.

As of 2000, speakers of Spanish as their first language accounted for 66.75% of residents, while English was spoken by 25.45%, Haitian Creole by 5.20%, and French speakers comprised 0.76% of the population.[55] Other languages that were spoken throughout the city include Portuguese at 0.41%, German at 0.18%, Italian at 0.16%, Arabic at 0.15%, Chinese at 0.11%, and Greek at 0.08% of the population.



As you can see "German" is stricly the European language most spoken in Miami, followed by Italian.

Obviously Spanish, French and Portuguese percentages are higher but highly influenced by the number of immigrants from South America and the Caribbeans.

[svendthrift]

Spanish and English aren't European languages? Anyways, that data does not support the statements you were making about patterns of migration by different groups into different regions. You'll need to find areas to compare, a control sample and possibly preform some regressions to control for different variables.

[robertobaggio]

Originally Posted by svendthrift

Spanish and English aren't European languages? Anyways, that data does not support the statements you were making about patterns of migration by different groups into different regions. You'll need to find areas to compare, a control sample and possibly preform some regressions to control for different variables.

English obviously is spoken by Americans, not only British and same goes with Spanish which is not only spoken in Spain. That makes
German the stricly European language most spoken in Miami and supports the idea that a large immigration of Germans occurs in South Florida and Miami, while the poster I was replying to claimed that Miami does not appeal to Germans.

Obviously it would be hard to tell how many British are in the Miami area, because their language on paper does not distinguish them from regular Americans. However, I am inclined to think, there are many British and European anglos in Miami from the amounts I met while visiting there.

Compare now with other big cities or metropolitan areas in warm weather. As you see no mentioning of many Europeans in other popular destinations:

San Francisco - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Los Angeles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
San Diego - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Rock Newman]

Originally Posted by robertobaggio

Not true, there is plenty of Europeans also in other areas of South Florida: Palm Beach, Boca Raton, Ft. Lauderdale, Coral Gables, Key Biscayne, Fisher Island. Probably different age range.

Only part of your argument is valid , as the areas you mentioned are for the most part wealthy areas and not within reach of many South Floridians ... how many Europeans are in Hialeah , Carol City , Little Havana , Westchester , East Miramar , Margate , Tamarac , Pompano ???

[cuba libre]

Originally Posted by robertobaggio

Germans are probably one of the most represented European communities in South Florida, probably more so than any other.

What planet are you from? Only 25-26% of Miami-Dade speaks English as a first language or at home.

Originally Posted by robertobaggio

Furthermore, there is a big difference between Latin (as in South Americans) and Latin (as in Italians, Spaniards, and French) in their liking for display of wealth and you fail to make the distinction.

99% of their names end in vowels, they ALL have Spanish/Latin/Hispanic pride (as witnessed by their almost universal refusal to assimilate), and most of the rich ones have a well known penchant for "machismo" behavior.

[Leovigildo]

Roberto

Let me tell you an example.
I have a friend with two kids that wanted to go to Eurodisney in Paris.
He asked for prices and opinions and he finally decided to contract a package Miami-Orlando for the whole family.
He paid some 4.000 dollars.
Eurodisney for his entire family was 3.300 dollars.
Eurodisney, Paris, bad weather, lots of French people, really, not attractive to Europeans.
They loved Miami and Orlando, Dysney World, Epcott, the fact that language was not a problem and the friendliness of people.

[robertobaggio]

Originally Posted by Rock Newman

Only part of your argument is valid , as the areas you mentioned are for the most part wealthy areas and not within reach of many South Floridians ... how many Europeans are in Hialeah , Carol City , Little Havana , Westchester , East Miramar , Margate , Tamarac , Pompano ???

How does that matter with the argument? Would you expect them to go to the Bronx, Compton, Hayward, Oakland, etc?!?

But they do pick Miami overall over San Diego, LA, San Francisco, and anywhere on the East Coast.