Do residents of Miami consider Miami a Southern city? (Hialeah: neighborhoods, school)

[Spade]

Originally Posted by quickgrits

What exactly is southern music? I don't think anyone in my family or any of my black friends listen to that The blacks in miami are not much different from any other races in miami and I don't see how the cars they drive are any different. I do however agree that black people in Dade tend to be more religious. I know you didn't intend on it but that post came off as just a little ignorant to me.

Most of the black born Americans especially in my generation (between 20-40 years of age) listens to nothing but hip hop from the South. Rarely do you hear East Coast or any other region. The post is no way ignorant. You just probably are around a much older group of Black Americans. Also, the cars with the candy paint, the huge rims, the colors, w/e is the same thing that you'll see in Miami especially aruond Miami Gardens, Opa Locka, Liberty City and Overtown. I'll show pictures later. But again, my family and friends who was born and raised down there does not consider themselves anything but Southern.

[Spade]

So for the people that say that Miami isn't Southern, do you consider Houston Southern. Because both those cities are pretty much identical. Except one is spread out and the other is well, not. Oh and many of Houston's blacks are Nigerian just to throw that out there. Is Houston a typical Southern city?

[Scientifical Madness]

Originally Posted by Spade

Most of the black born Americans especially in my generation (between 20-40 years of age) listens to nothing but hip hop from the South. Rarely do you hear East Coast or any other region. The post is no way ignorant. You just probably are around a much older group of Black Americans. Also, the cars with the candy paint, the huge rims, the colors, w/e is the same thing that you'll see in Miami especially aruond Miami Gardens, Opa Locka, Liberty City and Overtown. I'll show pictures later. But again, my family and friends who was born and raised down there does not consider themselves anything but Southern.

I love the South, but southern rap is barely tolerable imo, much less any good, lol. Choosing Lil Wayne and Rick Ross or Wu-Tang, the Roots, Common, Mos Def, Talib, etc... must be craaaazy.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by Scientifical Madness

I love the South, but southern rap is barely tolerable imo, much less any good, lol. Choosing Lil Wayne and Rick Ross or Wu-Tang, the Roots, Common, Mos Def, Talib, etc... must be craaaazy.

Well the problem is that Lil Wayne is not nearly the best nor is he all Southern rap has to offer. The best it has to offer is Little Brother, Cunninlynguistis, K-Otix, K-Rino, Jay Electronica, Outkast, Scarface, Cyne, Supastition Dead Prez, The Clipse etc. But when you say Southern rap, you really talk about the beats and the bass and that's what huge in Miami as well as the rest of the South. It's whatever is coming from the trunk.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by Nikki9947

Wow pump your breaks. This is not the culture of all Black people in the south OR Miami. That was a generalization & misconception rolled into one. Neither my friends or myself ride "big box chevy's" (especially with these gas prices), I grew up in a presbyterian church, listen to all types of music, and we don't all eat the same food (soul food is great yes but some blacks also eat tofu & ect.)
Furthermore, as someone wrote in a post before, a large number of the blacks here are from the Caribbean and some even consider themselves Hispanic. (This population is lot higher than in other "typical" Souther States). Also in this sense, their culture is totally different from the African- American culture. I just couldn't go on with my day without clearing that up.

Well obviously I wasn't saying all. But many in the Miami area that are black Americans do indeed intend baptist church's, ride specials cars (not necessariliy the big box chevy's but Miami is where that started and has spread throughout the South but not necessarily into Texas), and eat the sweet potato pie's, the fried chicken's, the candied yams, the chitlins, the collard and mustard greens, the ox tails, etc. Yes Miami does have a large Caribbean population. But it also has a large American born population. I been to NY. Miami is NOTHING like it. Not even close.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by TNRyan23

You're VERY wrong.

Trust me, Black people in South Florida are very different from Black people in other parts of the South East.

Lived in Florida, Tennessee, Louisiana, and Texas.

Actually, no I am not. No offense, but I think I'll take my observation over anybody else as well. I've also lived in Florida. Went to HS in the 10th grade in Miami. I am down in Miami every year for a long time visiting and sometimes staying with family. The Blacks in South Florida are not that much different than the blacks in other parts of the SouthEast. At least my family and friends aren't. Tell you what, tell me what makes them so different.

[Leovigildo]

But aren't all AA in North America southern?

[Mrs. P]

Originally Posted by dadeguy

I don't wish miami to be a southern culture city. I find the faux genteelness of southern society to be quite possibly the very worst hipocracy. I'm one of those people who will appreciate a sincere frown over a fake smile any day.

I'm far more comfortable with miami as it is. I like northeasterners which is not to say that I don't like southerners just that I like a person who is direct and southerners are not directly direct you need to know the buzzwords. if you know the buzzwords then southerners are just like anyone else but they seem sweet to the outsider, they ain't but they are pleasant in their abrasiveness.

agreed....it's quite acceptable down here to say anything you want, as long as you start the sentence with "bless his/her/their heart" and then slam on......

It is the reason I will be leaving SC for Florida. I do not consider the areas where I'm looking to move to in Florida, to have the culture that they have in NC and SC. Ain't saying it's bad mind you, not all of it, but it's not for me.
I too see too much faux presentation. The areas I've been in, in Florida, have much more of a midwest (my favorite) northern type of flavor...that's what I want, but without crummy weather

[Mrs. P]

Originally Posted by Eduardo983

What are the characteristics of a Southern city?

churches on every corner, churches that run your county, churches that run your schools, good old boy mentality and on it goes.

[Mrs. P]

Originally Posted by Scientifical Madness

I have lived in South FL (born there actually), and lived in rural Central FL (I live in Orlando now) and I have also lived in Asheville NC, and I can tell you that there isnt anything that I have witnessed as "fake" nice. Many of these Southern people are genuinely some of the nicest I ever met, and are really nice and treat one another accordingly. The "fake" sweet you talk about I dont see. I think you have lived in Miami too long bub.

I'll give you a little story, not a big deal, just an example. I was playing golf a couple weeks ago with a family member. A group from TN were also playing golf and were a couple holes behind us but caught up to us. We said hi and so forth. At the end of the round, we were both in the parking lot by our cars, sweating like crazy, and the man said, "Hey, you guys want some cold water? We have a big cooler filled with bottled water." We had our own water, and thanked them anyway. But we go to this golfcourse all the time, and we have never been offered water like that before until these folks from Tennessee offered. Just an example.

please do not compare Asheville to Miami, not even in the same universe.

I think your whole entire impression of NC of being based on Asheville is a little miscombobulated A small village/town located in the mountainous area of NC?

Heck I wouldn't even compare Charlotte to Miami.

I lived in tiny towns in NC and the biggest city in NC...those are 2 completely different types of communities and people.