Do residents of Miami consider Miami a Southern city? (Hialeah: real estate, crime)

[Scientifical Madness]

Originally Posted by Mrs. P

please do not compare Asheville to Miami, not even in the same universe. You are right about that. But I wouldnt even compare Asheville to a smaller city in S FL either. I havent found a city in S FL that can compete with Asheville when it comes to genuine friendliness and the way folks treat eachother.

I think your whole entire impression of NC of being based on Asheville is a little miscombobulated A small village/town located in the mountainous area of NC? What is different between Asheville and any other small to mid-sized town in NC? I find the people in Raleigh to be very nice too. And in Greensboro, and in W-S, and in Cary.

Heck I wouldn't even compare Charlotte to Miami. LOL, me either.

I lived in tiny towns in NC and the biggest city in NC...those are 2 completely different types of communities and people.

I agree that Asheville people and Charlotte people can be different. But I still find that the folks in Charlotte are pretty darn friendly, especially for a city that big. Go to Miami, Orlando, Tampa and compare it to Charlotte... it's not so bad in Charlotte. It's more comparable to Jax'ville imo.

[Nolefan34]

Ok first, there is NOTHING about Miami that is Southern. I don't know how you could even equate Miami with being Southern. In a Southern city, people say "ya'll". People are laid back. There are far more whites (non-Hispanics). You see Confederate flags. Latin culture is not predominant. Houses are not constructed using Mediteranean stucco. And there are more BBQ restaurants than P.F. Changs. Southern cities do not have anything close to South Beach or topless women tanning during broad daylight. The radio stations are censored to a greater degree and there are more than one country station. Stores close earlier and people go to bed earlier. The drivers let you in and don't cut you off. There are saloons rather than wine bars. Those are characteristics of Southern cities and Miami is like the opposite. The closest thing to a Southern city near Miami is Homestead.

It is true that at one time Miami was the deep south, but those days ended in the 70's. There are very few whites (non-Hispanics) living in Miami and the culture is a mix of Latin, Caribbean, and yuppyish Northeastern. Miami is kind of like a mix between NYC, L.A., and Detroit. It has the mentality of NYC, the beach, nightlife, weather, and good looking women like L.A., and vast areas of the city are poor like Detroit.

[goofykid]

What are with these rediculous post comparing Miami to other cities? Their was a stupid post about Orlando vs Miami and I think the polls spoke for themselves in that one.

NO WAY is Miami Southern not since 1960 and only geographically. The entire So Flo isn't Southern with the exception of Everglades City and Loxahatchee. How can people complain about the rudeness then say it's Southern where's the hospitality?

I think it's safe Miami is in a league of it's own when it comes to uniqueness. I don't know of any cities where the majority is one race? Downtown sucks everything and the best nightlife is on the beach? (Usually every other major city everything is about their downtown) One of the worst neighborhoods is 20 miles outside the city? Theirs no racial tension unlike the rest of the South?

Miami's not New York not L.A. and deffinitely not like anything from the South.

[Nolefan34]

Goofy>

I agree that Miami is its own unique city. You really cannot compare it with any other city, and doing so is foolish. Its very different from NYC and from Southern cities. I would say that it has more elements of NYC than any Southern city, but its really not like either.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by quickgrits

okay, I agree that a large portion of Miami's black population listens to hip hop but where did you get off calling it 'southern music'? I also don't agree that Miami's black population only listens to southern influenced hip hop. In your first post you were describing different cars that I believe you would often be able to find in many Miami neighborhoods black, white, or hispanic. In this post you describe the cars as candy paint, huge rims, and the colors. It is a huge misconception and completely ignorant to section it off as though only blacks drive cars like these. I think that has more to do with the youth in miami and their hip hop culture. Just as an example, I've seen cars like the one you described in the post above at a much higher consistency than opa locka or Miami gardens for example, in Hialeah. I'm also guessing that 96 percent of the time, people who drive cars like these are between the ages 17-25.

quote: "You just probably are around a much older group of Black Americans." Regardless if I did or if i did not, would it change the fact that they were black? no. I have black friends of varied ages 20-60 and your post is not an accurate portrayal of any of them. Like I said, the only thing I agree with is that they tend to eat the same food as other blacks from southern cities/states.

Keep in mind that I'm only talking about people that I know in Miami in regards to family and friends and the trends that I see in the various neighborhoods I actually lived and visited in while in the Miami area.

1. Because most of the hip hop that Miamians listen to are either from Florida itself or they are from the South. If you listen to any of the pirate radio stations throughout South Florida, that's all they play. Rarely do they play any hip hop from the East Coast because many Miamians do not care for East Coast Hip Hop. Again, Trick daddy, Rick Ross, Trina, all of them refer to themselves as Southerners.

2. I don't think you will find donks in white neighborhoods (or even Hispanic neighborhoods) as much as you will find them in the black neighborhoods. At least I never have. I didn't say that only blacks drive these type of cars anyway. Where do you come off calling anything about that ignorant anyway? Now I don't know much about Hialeah. But I do know they fix up the cars and do the same things in other parts of the South as they do in Miami Gardens and Opa Locka.

3. Again, I did not post my post to make it seem like all of the Blacks do the things I was talking about. But I know a great many down in the Miami area and I don't see any amount of difference between them and blacks in Atlanta.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by goofykid

I think it's safe Miami is in a league of it's own when it comes to uniqueness. I don't know of any cities where the majority is one race? Downtown sucks everything and the best nightlife is on the beach? (Usually every other major city everything is about their downtown) One of the worst neighborhoods is 20 miles outside the city? Theirs no racial tension unlike the rest of the South?

Miami's not New York not L.A. and deffinitely not like anything from the South.

Do you mean the smaller metros and towns of the South. Because Houston, Dallas, and Atlanta aren't anything like that when it comes to tension.

[compelled to reply]

Originally Posted by Spade

Do you mean the smaller metros and towns of the South. Because Houston, Dallas, and Atlanta aren't anything like that when it comes to tension.

Atlanta??? There is plenty of racial tension in South FL, as there is in Atlanta and Dallas. I don't think there is much in Houston.

[cuba libre]

Originally Posted by compelled to reply

Atlanta??? There is plenty of racial tension in South FL, as there is in Atlanta and Dallas. I don't think there is much in Houston.

After the AA exodus to Houston after Katrina, I've heard there is plenty, along with a brand new crime rate.

[Scientifical Madness]

^^^ The crime rate shot up from what I have heard. Of course, pointing that out is considered racist, am I right? :/

[goofykid]

Originally Posted by Spade

Do you mean the smaller metros and towns of the South. Because Houston, Dallas, and Atlanta aren't anything like that when it comes to tension.

I lived in Hallandale and always stayed with family in just about every neighborhoods except for the nice one's unfortunetely. I have never felt or seen racial tension.

I always hear how racial tension is bad in Atlanta. I had a co-worker who said thay he became a bit racist when he moved up there because of the tension. And a manager from another job who said that their was racism at her store in Birmingham.

I always seemed to me that the spanish population was like a buffer in Miami so their's no tension.