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Old 07-02-2009, 04:56 PM
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except that miami has zero negatives, zero. this town is the very center of perfection. it just doesn't get any better than miami.
I do not hate Miami ..... but you are kidding correct ... a note of sarcasm perhaps ?
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no sir not at all miami is the perfect place to live in all of the known universe.
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Old 07-02-2009, 06:45 PM
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except that miami has zero negatives, zero. this town is the very center of perfection. it just doesn't get any better than miami.
Actually, I was very peeved at the fact that there is an extreme lack of free parking, anywhere near ANY beach and that you get nickel and dimed every time you turn around. Yeah, that could get old. The street layout in some areas was very baffling -- super narrow, no sidewalks -can you park on the grass if you're not a resident? What's the etiquette?! --You don't know! -- Or at least I don't know! Yes, in many ways Miami is like another planet(not necessarily in a bad way)(and as another poster also stated) with different laws of physics, a different atmosphere, and different vegetation. I have been to several other states -- Colo, Minn, Tx, Utah, Ore, Wash, Montana, Wyoming, New Mex, Az, Nev,Iowa -- several locations in Canada - Vancouver, Banff, Victoria B.C., Alberta -- and Mexico - Mazatlan, the Sonoran Desert, Culiacan, Mazatlan, Mexico City- and I have never experienced the otherworldly reality that is Miami in the midst of the August hurricane season. There is something about this city that makes it seem incredibly remote from any part of the U.S. /Can/Mex - and consensus reality in general, to almost qualify it as an "Island". Some of the things that seem to contribute to the effect are the immersive qualities of the place. The air is dense and wet and whether you are inside air conditioned spaces or outside, you constantly feel the dampness and smell the moldy air(which I am addicted to). Because of of these factors, you are constantly aware of your location and the reality becomes immersive. The humidity seems to affect the transmission of sounds as well, adding a kind of dampening effect. Spacing in streets and construction is altogether different with wider spaces between buildings and there are a great deal of abandoned buildings -- even in the nicer parts which give this place a surreal feel. The lighting is ALWAYS dramatic due to the ever-present spectacular cloud formations, the darkness and ominousness of the thunderstorm clouds(when you're in them) and the intense sun when there aren't any. When you arrive and spend some time in Miami after being in San Diego, you become aware that there is absolutely NO interaction between the weather that occurs in Miami and that of San Diego. The weather systems don't even "bump". The influences are completely different. You step off the plane, you arrive at your hotel at 11:00pm. Drop off your stuff and go for a walkabout to get a feel for the place, since you know that sleep is out of the question because of your level of excitement and adventure, and you can't go for a drive since the rental car place is closed and you won't get your car until tomorrow. Is this a safe area? You don't know! You walk just the same. Do you dare step onto grassy areas for fear of poisonous animals? Will you stumble into an alligator that has invaded a residential zone (but aren't we the invadors?) or run into something or someone no one has warned you about, or that you didn't even know existed? You don't know! Will you get caught by a fast blowing storm or be struck by lightning? THAT doesn't happen in Southern California! And you still haven't figured out if there's a 7-11, convenience store or other familiar location to buy a Gatorade at this time of night--without having to walk several miles through the absolute unknown. The place, the layout, the flora, the fauna, the atmosphere, and possibly the culture are completely alien. And so you proceed, with extreme caution, with hyper-vigilance and hyper-alertness, as if you had landed on another planet -- because you have. And what a fantastically beautiful and mysterious planet this Miami is!
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Actually, I was very peeved at the fact that there is an extreme lack of free parking, anywhere near ANY beach and that you get nickel and dimed every time you turn around. Yeah, that could get old. The street layout in some areas was very baffling -- super narrow, no sidewalks -can you park on the grass if you're not a resident? What's the etiquette?! --You don't know! -- Or at least I don't know! Yes, in many ways Miami is like another planet(not necessarily in a bad way)(and as another poster also stated) with different laws of physics, a different atmosphere, and different vegetation. I have been to several other states -- Colo, Minn, Tx, Utah, Ore, Wash, Montana, Wyoming, New Mex, Az, Nev,Iowa -- several locations in Canada - Vancouver, Banff, Victoria B.C., Alberta -- and Mexico - Mazatlan, the Sonoran Desert, Culiacan, Mazatlan, Mexico City- and I have never experienced the otherworldly reality that is Miami in the midst of the August hurricane season. There is something about this city that makes it seem incredibly remote from any part of the U.S. /Can/Mex - and consensus reality in general, to almost qualify it as an "Island". Some of the things that seem to contribute to the effect are the immersive qualities of the place. The air is dense and wet and whether you are inside air conditioned spaces or outside, you constantly feel the dampness and smell the moldy air(which I am addicted to). Because of of these factors, you are constantly aware of your location and the reality becomes immersive. The humidity seems to affect the transmission of sounds as well, adding a kind of dampening effect. Spacing in streets and construction is altogether different with wider spaces between buildings and there are a great deal of abandoned buildings -- even in the nicer parts which give this place a surreal feel. The lighting is ALWAYS dramatic due to the ever-present spectacular cloud formations, the darkness and ominousness of the thunderstorm clouds(when you're in them) and the intense sun when there aren't any. When you arrive and spend some time in Miami after being in San Diego, you become aware that there is absolutely NO interaction between the weather that occurs in Miami and that of San Diego. The weather systems don't even "bump". The influences are completely different. You step off the plane, you arrive at your hotel at 11:00pm. Drop off your stuff and go for a walkabout to get a feel for the place, since you know that sleep is out of the question because of your level of excitement and adventure, and you can't go for a drive since the rental car place is closed and you won't get your car until tomorrow. Is this a safe area? You don't know! You walk just the same. Do you dare step onto grassy areas for fear of poisonous animals? Will you stumble into an alligator that has invaded a residential zone (but aren't we the invadors?) or run into something or someone no one has warned you about, or that you didn't even know existed? You don't know! Will you get caught by a fast blowing storm or be struck by lightning? THAT doesn't happen in Southern California! And you still haven't figured out if there's a 7-11, convenience store or other familiar location to buy a Gatorade at this time of night--without having to walk several miles through the absolute unknown. The place, the layout, the flora, the fauna, the atmosphere, and possibly the culture are completely alien. And so you proceed, with extreme caution, with hyper-vigilance and hyper-alertness, as if you had landed on another planet -- because you have. And what a fantastically beautiful and mysterious planet this Miami is!
Dang! Moderator cut: Trolling It was really harsh reading but your last sentence kinda made it worthwhile.

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Old 07-02-2009, 09:51 PM
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By transactional relationships, it's generally about what two people can "do" for each other - a rather quick assessment of "what do you do?" as in career, or "who do you know?" as in "do we have people in common, or are you good for networking?" instead of getting to know people over time, and overcoming first impressions. Perhaps it's about the pace, which is pretty fast for a tropical town. Also, most people weren't born and raised here and this community quickly accepts folks with lots of money and influence. This city's history is full of folks who came into town, won friends and influenced people, made their money or threw their money around and went to jail for some unsavory reason or another.

True story: We'd moved to a quiet, acre neighborhood in Pinecrest, filled with families who had lived in modest homes, and we hardly knew each other! Typical suburban scenario. Six years after moving into that neighborhood Hurricane Andrew hit, and all the families started hanging out outside, helping each other clear our lots, cooking on Coleman stoves and barbeques, borrowing and lending stuff, watching each others' kids while they went up and down the block, playing on the moldy furniture curbside, watching out for the insurance claims guys for each other. A few weeks later, power was restored and we all holed back up in our houses and my kids wondered what had happened to all the fun and adventure in the neighborhood. This might have happened anywhere, and not specific to Miami, but I saw it and it made me quite sad.
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:18 PM
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I moved to Atlanta from Miami 6 months ago and all I can say is that i miss it every day!!!! I miss the late nights and the club hopping, the availability of anything anytime anywere and the incredibly Hot women and so on. its an amazing city if you are young and/or young at heart with substantial sum of money. Nothing like looking out the window of a brickell condo onto the bay in the morning after a night of partying!
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:39 AM
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no sir not at all miami is the perfect place to live in all of the known universe.
Wow .... you need to get out more . I like many parts of Miami Dade as it has some beautiful areas .. but just the attitude of many of the people would discount it as "the perfect place to live in all of the known universe" in my book . You need to discover the world my friend or even just this beautiful country we live in .
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:43 AM
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I moved to Atlanta from Miami 6 months ago and all I can say is that i miss it every day!!!! I miss the late nights and the club hopping, the availability of anything anytime anywere and the incredibly Hot women and so on. its an amazing city if you are young and/or young at heart with substantial sum of money. Nothing like looking out the window of a brickell condo onto the bay in the morning after a night of partying!

You said it "an amazing city if you are young and/ or young at heart and with a substantial sum of money " being bi-lingual and having the patience of St. Paul would help as well . I do agree there are some amazing women though in Miami .... I visited the Dadeland Mall for the first time a few weekends ago and could not believe my peepers at the female talent on a Saturday afternoon
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Wow .... you need to get out more . I like many parts of Miami Dade as it has some beautiful areas .. but just the attitude of many of the people would discount it as "the perfect place to live in all of the known universe" in my book . You need to discover the world my friend or even just this beautiful country we live in .
I've been around the world, probably more than 90% of the people who have ever lived. what's more I started travelling from a very young age and quit travelling internationally at age 39 in 1996. I've been on five continents sometimes for months at stretch, others for years. I'm done seeing other places and miami is without a doubt the very best place on the planet imHo.
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Dadeguy: Your last comment begs a follow-up! I would prefer to like Miami more than I do. I, too, have travelled to and lived in quite a few places on several continents. Miami doesn't "speak to me" as some other places have, and I'm open to re-evaluating my antipathy. It all comes down to what our differing needs and wishes are. So what is it about Miami which earns your "very best place on the planet" moniker? I ask in earnest, and not to challenge.
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