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Old 09-26-2010, 08:16 AM
 
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A follow up article on the arrest at the Arab Fest last summer.

Jury acquits 4 arrested for behavior at Arab fest | mlive.com
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Old 09-26-2010, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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...what the hell is wrong with the cowards in michigan who are allowing these arabs to come here and threaten, intimidate and harass anyone they wish?

Police enforce sharia in Dearborn, non-Muslims arrested at Arab fest (update)

Posted on June 19, 2010

As we pointed out here, ‘Appeals courts prevents sharia law at Arab-fest, theoretically‘, our theory was correct. Muslims don’t abide by American laws or the Constitution. They abide only by their own laws, primarily Islamic sharia law. On public streets, at a public event, blatant Christian-phobia and profiling by Muslim thugs enforcing sharia law on non-Muslims. Right here in the USA. It will get much worse unless and until good Americans stand up, speak up, and fight back.

via Answering Muslims: Acts 17 In Dearborn City Jail. (check the link for their for Acts 17′s updates)

Yes, you heard it here first, folks. David and I, along with Negeen and Paul Rezkalla, were arrested and spent last night in jail. It is a long story which we will elaborate in full detail when we can, and we will post footage when the police give us back our cameras.
But to take the edge off your curiosity, here are some basics: Paul, David, Negeen, and I went to the festival to see and comment on the situation. Thankfully, we recorded every second of our activity at the festival. At one point, we came across a festival volunteer who seemed to take issue with us simply being at the festival. We could tell he had a problem with us, and so we asked “What are we doing wrong?” He said “Put the camera and microphone down, and I’ll tell you.” (By the way, there was more to this conversation, but when you see the footage, I think you’ll see I’m being fair in my summary.) So I obliged, handing the microphone to David and asking him to not record the man. I then approached him and said “No camera, no mic, tell me what we’re doing wrong”, he said “Get away from me!” (or something to that effect). Again, I obliged, and walked away.
About 20 minutes later, to shouts and cheers of “Allahu Akbar!” we were all being led away from the festival in handcuffs. From the brief description we were given by the police of why we were being arrested, it sounds like the festival volunteer said we surrounded him and didn’t give him an opportunity to leave, thereby “breaching the peace.” This is as blatantly false as an accusation can get.

Last year, security lied about us and we got kicked out of the festival. We had it all on tape, so we were able to vindicate ourselves. This year, a volunteer lied about us, and we got thrown into jail. But when we get our footage back, we’ll be able to vindicate ourselves again.

Here’s what gets me though: people are getting very offended by the simple fact that we’re taking cameras with us wherever we go. But if it weren’t for the cameras, no one would know the truth of what is happening in Dearborn!

And what is happening in Dearborn? Don’t get me wrong, I met a ton of awesome people at the festival today. But it seems like every time we come to this city, we encounter people who would lie at the drop of a hat to advance their own agendas, regardless of whether they will be proven false! I have been many places throughout this country, but never have I seen such a predilection for deception. What is it about this specific city that makes people act this way?

I, Richard Valencia from Dallas, TX, was a witness to the events that took place at about 9:15pm-9:25pm on June 18, 2010 in Dearborn, MI at the Arab Festival. Here it is as i saw it:

"I saw Nabeel Qureshi in the midst of a crowd of about twenty teenagers and young adult Muslims. David Wood and Paul were video taping Nabeel and the young Muslims dialog. Police officers, about four, were present acting as a shield protecting Nabeel from a crowd closing in tighter. The entire dialog seemed very peaceful and productive. i did not hear the police officers tell Nabeel or David to stop. The conversation with Nabeel began to wind down.

I was able to speak with Nabeel a little to encourage him. At this point the crowd began to break up and the police also walked away. Another young adult Muslim began conversing with Nabeel and the crowd began to come back together. Finally, the police officers returned, about five or six of them, and surrounded David, Nabeel, and Paul. I thought they were going to protect Nabeel and the other brothers, but without warning, the police, rather gently but still forcibly, began taking hold of the camcorders. They arrested all three of the men and escorted them away at the sound of applause by some of the surrounding Muslims."
I wasn't there, but from what you've said, it sounds like you came looking for trouble and you found it. I imagine that the Arabs of Dearborn (many of whom are Christian, BTW) are a bit on edge lately, given the recent behavior of certain politicians and members of the media.

We like to live and let live in Michigan. That doesn't make us cowards. Those Arabs live here; you don't. You're the ones who are coming here and causing trouble. And I don't see what any of this has to do with sharia. In general, not filming someone who doesn't want to be filmed is common courtesy, not sharia. Sometimes there are more important considerations than courtesy, but it is the one with the camera who must be prepared to justify his/her actions, not the one who doesn't want to be filmed.
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Old 09-27-2010, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Macao
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I wasn't there, but from what you've said, it sounds like you came looking for trouble and you found it. I imagine that the Arabs of Dearborn (many of whom are Christian, BTW) are a bit on edge lately, given the recent behavior of certain politicians and members of the media.

We like to live and let live in Michigan. That doesn't make us cowards. Those Arabs live here; you don't. You're the ones who are coming here and causing trouble. And I don't see what any of this has to do with sharia. In general, not filming someone who doesn't want to be filmed is common courtesy, not sharia. Sometimes there are more important considerations than courtesy, but it is the one with the camera who must be prepared to justify his/her actions, not the one who doesn't want to be filmed.
I second this.
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Old 09-27-2010, 06:40 PM
 
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If you come lookin' fo beef, you got beef.

What, no ACORN offices to visit?

Next time, get a booth like everyone else and don't go lookin' fo the beef.
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Old 09-27-2010, 06:43 PM
 
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The main point here is the Dearborn P.D. has taken an oath to "serve, protect and defend" the laws of the United States of America, and the State of Michigan and the laws of the City of Dearborn and nothing else...not sheria or any other religious rules and decrees. In fact, they have no authority to recognize any other forms of law and especially religious law. The authority bestowed upon the police officer in Dearborn or any other community are finite, identifiable, and limited. The Police Department can not assume or take upon themselves any additional authority to enforce laws not granted to them by the Federal, State or City in which they serve, period. If that were true then on any given friday a police officer could enter a restaurant and check on patrons who were Roman Catholic and make sure they were not having meat. Doesn't make much sense does it. The real point is the arab community did not come here to become Americans first. They brought their homeland with them and live tight knit communities. They are arab first and become American citizens for the advantages of citizenship. So when I saw the film of what took place in Dearborn on 9/11 I knew I had misjudged this whole thing.I also took an oath and served 33 years and America always came first. I too am exercising my First Amendment right.
You have every right to your bigotry and prejudices, your distortions and false facts. God Bless America.
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