The usa out of control (Custer: credit, health insurance, military)

[Driller1]

All business expense are deducible. My point was you have nothing to deduct it from. Therefor, at this point it is a toy. We pay about $8600 a year for us, and two employees. We work 6 months, but they have insurance all year. It is a little more than major medical, but not much. It is deductible because we have something to deduct it from.

If you are in MI., you can pay $5.00 a mouth for insurance for children.

[wanderer74]

Originally Posted by Driller1

All business expense are deducible. My point was you have nothing to deduct it from. Therefor, at this point it is a toy. We pay about $8600 a year for us, and two employees. We work 6 months, but they have insurance all year. It is a little more than major medical, but not much. It is deductible because we have something to deduct it from.

If you are in MI., you can pay $5.00 a mouth for insurance for children.

I realize that with our income being as low as it is, we aren't really paying in, so my deductible self-employment expenses don't really matter. But because I actually make more money from my use of the internet than it costs, it's definitely a worthwhile expense.

We applied for the $5 monthly insurance for the kids, but don't make enough money to qualify for it. The kids do get Medicaid, but my husband and I do not. Until Feb. 2006, we had a comfortable middle class income and excellent health insurance - we're working toward getting back to that, but I miss it!

I think we're in the same geographic area, so if you happen to know of anyone who needs some hard-working employees, let me know! My husband has been looking for a f/t job with benefits since Feb 06 and still hasn't found one. I try to network with everyone I encounter, in case it might turn up more job opportunities that he wouldn't otherwise find out about...

[Driller1]

Good luck, things will come around.

[greiver]

I am not trying to cause trouble, but sometimes things do not "come around"
I just talked with a man who said "I do not want to pay for some ones health care"
I said to him, I have no children and do not want to pay for his kids school,
If I were rich and could afford a security escort I would not want to pay for a police dept I did not use.
The thing is we are a society and some on the top 2% want to put capitolisim as king.
This does not work, just a communisim works on paper, so does capitolisim, but in reality is does not work in real life situations.
We live in a society, and because of that we have to put proffit aside on some things.
These include but not limited to education,and inteligent population leads to a better society.
The common enforcment of laws, the police depts.
The common Road managment and building.
And social welfare. Some people when they spin things make it an all or nothing type of situation, I think many will say that people who abuse welfare need to be made to work for their money if they can, but the republican "tough love" crap that people will appreciate the money they earn better when they have to work for it by themselves is to much of a blanket statemnt designed to keep people in the poor state.
I guess from this line of argument you could say that the slaves for the us 19th century would have appreciated their freedom if they had to work for it.
This may even be true, but slavery is still wrong.
And we are still paying the price for this wrong, in the form of raceisim, and social problems in this country.
We are going to pay a high price for the greed of corporations today.
When insurance companys make record proffits and base care on how much it costs the company, do you really think this is "good for the country?"
If you do you work for the insurance companys, are lobbyed by the insurance comapnys, or are just plain stupid.
When laura pinea testfied before congress that she caused people to die because she denied health care to people based on what it cost the HMO's it showed that the HMO's and health insurance companys in general were only about one thing and one thing only, proffit, The republicans will say, it is the litigation against health care providers that drive prices up.
I do not know of one attorney that has denied health care and caused any one to die, but there are many cases of insurance providers denying help to the needy.
Those who say "Any one in need can get health care by just going to an emergancy room" Is a FOOL. I work in health care and if any one goes to an emergancy room, and is need of health care, they will be stablisied to the a point that they can stand transport to free provider or out of the hospital, not really helped.
So the republicans place lie on top of lie.
Many people under their health insurance will not be alowed preventitive health care, this is as stupid as saying that we will not pay for the 10$ lug nut to be replaced on your car but when the wheel falls off and the damage is 3500$ we will pick up the tab.
How stupid and greedy these corporations are. They will jump over a $ to pick up a dime.
The only thing big enough to bring about sanity to this situation is the federal government.
We need to get this done. we are the butt of many jokes around the world, we are behind cuba in infant mortality.
Now if a country that has had a block on commrice since the 60s, can provide better health care than the usa, something is drasticly stinky in denmark.
When well we learn that it is not all about $?

[Driller1]

Yes, when it is my dime you want, it is all about money.

[nobush]

I bet you are the kind of person who would step over a dead child because it may cost you a nickle for the cell phone call.
Ahhh its what made america the thing it is.

[Driller1]

Originally Posted by nobush

I bet you are the kind of person who would step over a dead child because it may cost you a nickle for the cell phone call.
Ahhh its what made america the thing it is.

That statement is a far cry from picking my pocket. But, I will give your type credit.
Since I have become acquitted with forums, and see how little people appreciate things, I have cut over $30,000 a year in donations. I give to animal welfare only now.

[kathys]

Why does'nt anyone complain about all their dimes going to Iraq. I don't care about the people over there. They don't want us there and we have no business there. A lot of your dimes are going there so all of the Bush interests and connections can rob you of your dimes by the trillions. In the meantime the entire world hates us and all the terrorists get stirred up even more so they can then come over here and start more problems while everyone is driving their SUVs , workiing their high tech jobs playing video games and posting on here. People should be outraged about that. All there is apathy and indifference.

[Driller1]

Originally Posted by kathys

Why does'nt anyone complain about all their dimes going to Iraq. I don't care about the people over there. They don't want us there and we have no business there. A lot of your dimes are going there so all of the Bush interests and connections can rob you of your dimes by the trillions. In the meantime the entire world hates us and all the terrorists get stirred up even more so they can then come over here and start more problems while everyone is driving their SUVs , workiing their high tech jobs playing video games and posting on here. People should be outraged about that. All there is apathy and indifference.

It irritates me when people fail to vote.
The terrorism began before Iraq. I do not like the war either.

[MichiganBoater]

Originally Posted by bobbylee

I understand the post.
I agree and have seen the movie. I am also ashamed to be part of this screwed up system.
Look at what big business is doing to michigan.

Oh those darn Big Corporations! How dare they employ thousands of people, give them insurances, pay, vacations, healthcare, and other benefits.

They should all be shut down and we should all live off the federal government because people are too stupid to take care of themselves.

As for Michael Moore, he has a liberal socialist agenda that would make a communist proud!