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For more than 100,000 years, people have recognized ownership of real estate as belonging to those who live there and defend it. Squatters' rights are not a technicality invented by dishonest lawyers. Such rights have been recognized longer than civilization has existed. In legal jargon, that's known as precedent. Modern law puts ownership on paper. But ancient law still takes precedence.
You need not fear that squatters can move in while you're on a business trip. You have to abandon the properaty, and stop paying for its upkeep, before squatters can legally move in. If you're paying for upkeep, you should also be paying for security. You should have a burglar alarm, connected to a security company, and other such security measures.
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For more than 100,000 years, people have recognized ownership of real estate as belonging to those who live there and defend it. Squatters' rights are not a technicality invented by dishonest lawyers. Such rights have been recognized longer than civilization has existed. In legal jargon, that's known as precedent. Modern law puts ownership on paper. But ancient law still takes precedence.
You need not fear that squatters can move in while you're on a business trip. You have to abandon the properaty, and stop paying for its upkeep, before squatters can legally move in. If you're paying for upkeep, you should also be paying for security. You should have a burglar alarm, connected to a security company, and other such security measures.
NOT TRUE. REmember the woman a few years ago that moved from Detroit to Livonia? She was still paying upkeep--taxes, utilities and lawn care--of her Detroit home while it was on the market.
Squatter moved in and she had to go to court to evict him.
We pay the upkeep of our property and nowhere have we ever read security was a requirement.
Common sense is one of the foundations of our civilization. Common sense says you should have security for your property. If you let someone move in, you're asking for squatters. How did she not know they moved in, soon enough to be able to call the police and report them as burglars? Couldn't she ask that they be arrested for breaking and entering? Why did her real estate agent not report the situation to her?
The lesson to learn from that is that if you abandon your property to sell it, don't abandon it completely. Keep an eye on it while trying to sell it. Ask your neighbors to watch it for you. At the very least, put an internet camera in it, to record anyone who breaks in, and program it to send you warnings by email of such break-ins.
My husband and I went looking for a house to purchase and fix up as we go through out the years, slowly and the right way the houses in Detroit are horrible alot of houses are destroyed inside and ou,t so if I started the process of fixing it up and paying taxes on it would that make me wrong mind you that I did my research the property has been vacant for 5 years and yes a bank own it.
For more than 100,000 years, people have recognized ownership of real estate as belonging to those who live there and defend it. Squatters' rights are not a technicality invented by dishonest lawyers. Such rights have been recognized longer than civilization has existed. In legal jargon, that's known as precedent. Modern law puts ownership on paper. But ancient law still takes precedence.
You need not fear that squatters can move in while you're on a business trip. You have to abandon the properaty, and stop paying for its upkeep, before squatters can legally move in. If you're paying for upkeep, you should also be paying for security. You should have a burglar alarm, connected to a security company, and other such security measures.
My daddy taught me that you can't argue with stupid, but here goes...
First of all, what 100,000 year old records are you using for your research? Secondly, home "ownership" is limited primarily to western civilization and home ownership for average citizens is a pretty new concept. Prior to the past few hundred years, land ownership occurred through aristocracy and commoners were indentured servants to the land owners.
Even today, most countries don't have the concept of home ownership. That is unique to the western cultures. In many places, you are a squatter by default.
I don't have any problem with squatting in today's society. Its a bit like our own version of the land rush. And in a sense its a form of redistribution of wealth that occurs organically within a free market society. Schemers will always be around us and will always find a way to exploit the law to their benefit. I think that changing squatters laws is a bit of a slippery slope and is not a cure for unethicality.
I may be about to become a squatter myself. I sold my condo at a loss in 2007 and because I was upside down in that sale, I did not have a down payment for a new home, and my career was a bit transient at the time; so I decided to rent. I've been in the same place since 2007. I have a feeling my landlord is entering foreclosure. He's a bit of a deadbeat and is angry about the hit he took by purchasing this place just before the recession. Lately, overnight mail has been showing up from the bank on a regular basis (so not the annual vouchers and stubs you might expect). If he defaults on the loan, I will definitely consider squatting and see if I cannot work out terms with the bank to take over payments, depending on current values and what is owed. I see no problems with that.
I may be about to become a squatter myself. I sold my condo at a loss in 2007 and because I was upside down in that sale, I did not have a down payment for a new home, and my career was a bit transient at the time; so I decided to rent. I've been in the same place since 2007. I have a feeling my landlord is entering foreclosure. He's a bit of a deadbeat and is angry about the hit he took by purchasing this place just before the recession. Lately, overnight mail has been showing up from the bank on a regular basis (so not the annual vouchers and stubs you might expect). If he defaults on the loan, I will definitely consider squatting and see if I cannot work out terms with the bank to take over payments, depending on current values and what is owed. I see no problems with that.
I don't think this would make you a true squatter, it would simply mean that the place that you rent changed ownership from the current owner to the bank that holds the mortgage. It would then be up to the bank to decide what to do with you, whether to evict you or continue to take your rent payments. You have a right to live in that property, because you and the current owner have an agreement that you may live there because you pay rent to do so. The type of squatting that was being discussed here is more like when a homeless person breaks into an unoccupied property that belongs to someone else and refuses to leave. They don't pay rent, never did pay rent, and have no agreement with anyone that they may occupy the property.
Your situation is understandable, the other is flat out wrong.
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