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Old 01-07-2012, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Loving life in Gaylord!
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Lol...ok, I LOVE snow...but that may be overdoing it a bit.
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Bliss Township, Michigan
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I have a friend that lives there, Valdez, and she says it's been amazing the amount of snow this year.
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Old 01-08-2012, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Wyandotte, MI
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Its sad because I really want my kids to enjoy winter like I did when I was a kid. It seemed like we always had snow on the ground in winter here in mid-MI. I remember being outside almost every day...all day, playing in the snow and digging tunnels in the drifts. To tell you the truth...looking at the extended forcast, we just might go through most of January with no snow....sad.
This start to winter is depressing no doubt. But I will say one thing, your kids will say the same thing about their kids, their kids will say the same thing about their kids, etc etc etc. The same mantra "it doesnt snow like it did when I was a kid" has been tossed around for centuries. Im not sure exactly where it comes from, probably because as a kid going outside and building a snowfort with the neighbor kids certainly stokes more memories than just sitting inside playing legos or something on a snowless winter day. But one things for sure, it just is natural for the average joe to remember winters of their youth as harsher (its also natural for the average joe to complain more about snow as an adult ). But one thing us "non-average joes" have the luxury of is access to/interest in past weather data. And trust me when I say, every single winter is different from the last, but every winter was NOT snowcovered from start to finish in SE MI. There are some that are, some that arent. Some of the more extreme examples have seen the region absolutely BURIED most of the winter (1978 or 1982 for example) and others have had bare ground most of the winter (1949 or 1953 for example). I know you are in mid-MI not SE MI, and I do have some (not as much) knowlege of past winters there, but its really all the same. We have just gone through some good winters here, so a stinker isnt out of the question, although there is still 3+ months of snow to come, so keep the faith!
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Bliss Township, Michigan
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Yes, the '78 and '82 years were great, I remember them well. Also in 2001, I believe that was the year, we go 96 inches in just a few days here in Emmet County. Another little titbit, the year I moved up here with my parents, 1968, from Pontiac, it was -31° on this date, 01.07.68.
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Wyandotte, MI
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Yes, the '78 and '82 years were great, I remember them well. Also in 2001, I believe that was the year, we go 96 inches in just a few days here in Emmet County. Another little titbit, the year I moved up here with my parents, 1968, from Pontiac, it was -31° on this date, 01.07.68.
brrr thats cold! Downstate as I mentioned, we have seen so much more snow than usual recently. While the all-time extremes for Detroit on both ends are before our time (snowiest was 93.6" in 1880-81, least snowy was 12.9" in 1936-37)....its fair to say the "rare" winters are ones that drop more than 60 inches or less than 21 inches of snow. The longterm average is 41" per season, so naturally a large percentage of the years fall between 30 and 50 inches.

Since 1880, there have been just 15 winters with 60 or more inches of snow and just 11 winters with 20 inches or less. Look at the breakdown of when those extreme seasons occurred.

60+ inch snowfall winters, Detroit, MI
2010s- 1
2000s- 4
1990s- 0
1980s- 1
1970s- 2
1960s- 0
1950s- 0
1940s- 0
1930s- 1
1920s- 1
1910s- 0
1900s- 2
1890s- 1
1880s- 2

20-inch or less snowfall winters, Detroit, MI
2010s- 0
2000s- 0
1990s- 0
1980s- 1
1970s- 0
1960s- 3
1950s- 2
1940s- 1
1930s- 1
1920s- 0
1910s- 1
1900s- 0
1890s- 1
1880s- 1
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Old 01-09-2012, 01:53 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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This start to winter is depressing no doubt. But I will say one thing, your kids will say the same thing about their kids, their kids will say the same thing about their kids, etc etc etc. The same mantra "it doesnt snow like it did when I was a kid" has been tossed around for centuries. Im not sure exactly where it comes from, probably because as a kid going outside and building a snowfort with the neighbor kids certainly stokes more memories than just sitting inside playing legos or something on a snowless winter day. But one things for sure, it just is natural for the average joe to remember winters of their youth as harsher (its also natural for the average joe to complain more about snow as an adult ). But one thing us "non-average joes" have the luxury of is access to/interest in past weather data. And trust me when I say, every single winter is different from the last, but every winter was NOT snowcovered from start to finish in SE MI. There are some that are, some that arent. Some of the more extreme examples have seen the region absolutely BURIED most of the winter (1978 or 1982 for example) and others have had bare ground most of the winter (1949 or 1953 for example). I know you are in mid-MI not SE MI, and I do have some (not as much) knowlege of past winters there, but its really all the same. We have just gone through some good winters here, so a stinker isnt out of the question, although there is still 3+ months of snow to come, so keep the faith!
Well, things to change over time or at least go in cycles. The seventies have been called "the snowy seventies."

Weather Elements: Lake-Effect Snow Climatology in the Great Lakes Region

The Snowy Seventies

The potential impact of lake-effect snowfall in the Great Lakes region can best be illustrated by looking at the snowiest major cities in the United States in the 1970s, a decade known as the Snowy Seventies. The period was characterized by a drop in global air temperature and dramatic increase in snowfall across the Northern Hemisphere. In the Great Lakes region, three winters (1975-76, 1976-77, 1977-78) particularly stand out which were characterized by very cold temperatures beginning in November and very strong north/northwesterly winds. Impacts may have been higher if not for the fact that Lake Erie and Lake Ontario froze mostly or completely over.
Buffalo, New York led the list with 2819 cm (1109.8 in) of total snowfall over the decade with Rochester, New York second at 2728 cm (1074 in). (The smaller city of Syracuse, New York recorded 3043.7 cm (1198.3 in).) The third on the list was Salt Lake City, Utah at 2078.5 cm (818.3 in), itself located on the shoreline of a large lake. Fourth was Albany, New York -- 1775.5 cm (699.1 in) -- and Cleveland, Ohio, sixth -- 1449.6 cm (570.7 in).
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Old 01-09-2012, 07:46 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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It may be better that we up here in the UP stay off this thread. For the most part, we have little common interest with Lower land. You folks get most of your weather including all those cloudy days from across Lake Michigan. We get ours directly from Canada, across Lake Superior, and we have a lot of sunny winter days along with a dry, less humidity, kinda snow and cold. Your only area that can challenge us some years is the " snow Belt" that starts out of SW Michigan, across Lake Mi. along with Gary-LaPorte, Indiana. I know, I lived there 5 years. It was very depressing,cloudy, humid cold, along with some winters over 100 inches.( like last year). We up here are due for a real big one, its been at lest 3 years.
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:10 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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It may be better that we up here in the UP stay off this thread. For the most part, we have little common interest with Lower land. You folks get most of your weather including all those cloudy days from across Lake Michigan. We get ours directly from Canada, across Lake Superior, and we have a lot of sunny winter days along with a dry, less humidity, kinda snow and cold. Your only area that can challenge us some years is the " snow Belt" that starts out of SW Michigan, across Lake Mi. along with Gary-LaPorte, Indiana. I know, I lived there 5 years. It was very depressing,cloudy, humid cold, along with some winters over 100 inches.( like last year). We up here are due for a real big one, its been at lest 3 years.
I think Marquette is considered a very cloudy place by national standards, not that much different from any place in the LP. Lake Superior creates lake effect clouds also, right?
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Snow Thursday and Friday! Models in northern lower have been showing 5+ inches for a few runs. Winter storm watches issued for the Lake Michican side! UP will get hit too...
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Old 01-10-2012, 09:28 PM
 
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It's a La Nina year, you will probably get hammered especially the next couple of months.
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