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Old 12-24-2011, 03:32 PM
Status: "Campaigning 4 State House" (set 7 days ago)
 
Location: Mid-Town
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Didn't Snyder just throw off thousands of people from the unemployment dole when he ended the extensions?

Yeah, people losing their only source of income in an environment scarce of jobs is a HUGE improvement alright!!!

The employment rate and labor participation numbers (which have been stagnant) will show the true number. I only deal with facts, but if that's considering "trolling" and makes me a bad person then so be it.

BTW, I also don't buy the drop from 9% to 8.6% for the national rate either, especially considering when only 120,000 jobs were created (it doesn't add up).

Simple new math---120,000 jobs created + 300,000 dropped from unemployment (no more extensions) = 420,000 reduction in unemployment. And YES VIRGINIA, this new math is happening in other states as well...
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Old 12-25-2011, 11:07 PM
 
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Simple new math---120,000 jobs created + 300,000 dropped from unemployment (no more extensions) = 420,000 reduction in unemployment. And YES VIRGINIA, this new math is happening in other states as well...
I wish someone would explain what extensions Snyder ended in Michigan...
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Old 12-26-2011, 01:12 AM
 
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In michigan instead of 99 weeks of unemployment there is now 79 weeks
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:01 AM
 
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Well, one of the first negative comments we will see is "yeah, but the unemployment rate doesn't include the TRUE number of people who are unemployed, because many have given up on looking for work."

Riiiight.... As if that isn't the case in the 49 other states, too. They calculate the unemployment rate in the same fashion for every state. The important point is that we are improving, relative to other states. Not that things are perfect here.

*cue trolls*
Exactly.

Michigan has a falling unemployment rate that is falling pretty significantly, more than other states' rates have fallen.
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Old 12-29-2011, 07:47 PM
 
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Simple new math---120,000 jobs created + 300,000 dropped from unemployment (no more extensions) = 420,000 reduction in unemployment. And YES VIRGINIA, this new math is happening in other states as well...
No new math here...the unemployment rate is not determined by the number of people applying for, collecting, or being dropped for unemployment benefits. The Labor Department uses a survey of ALL households, regardless of employment status....i.e there is no "reduction" in unemployment when people lose their unemployment benefits. They are still unemployed and are part of the statistical sampling.
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:33 PM
 
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can anyone tell me if there is a tier 4 still in affect? just ran out of tier 3 and not sure what to do about applying for the EB extension. Do it now or wait if there is a tier 4?
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Old 12-30-2011, 03:14 PM
 
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I believe that there is still a Tier IV, which I think kicks in automatically, but I would call them up just to make sure that is correct and see if there is anything that you need to do.
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Old 12-30-2011, 03:16 PM
 
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Does anyone know if it is possible to collect extensions on two different claims in Michigan?

For instance I went through some of Tier I, II, and III back in 2008-2009, and then I was laid off again and qualified for a new claim in 2011. I was just wondering if you can start all over with Tier I on a new claim in a situation like this?


Thanks
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:54 PM
 
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thank you jwc09
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Old 01-01-2012, 07:53 AM
 
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Exactly.

Michigan has a falling unemployment rate that is falling pretty significantly, more than other states' rates have fallen.
But Michigan also has a much lower ceiling of potential job growth than other states. We were already so low that any adjustment back to a normal-for-Michigan unemployment is going to look great relative to other states. But we're still much worse off than most.
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