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Old 05-04-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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Superior does not stink, its as pure as the driven snow that falls on it in huge amounts almost every year. You do know half belongs to Canada don't you.?
Hey, I live in the U.P. I LOVE our beautiful fresh water.....I should have said...."keep your stinkin' hands off our precious water". Just the thought of anyone taking/stealing our water makes me very angry
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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No one should be removing great lakes water from the great lakes basin. Nothing makes me more angry than hearing some dry state eyeing our water. I say go suck on some sand, leave our water alone.
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:42 PM
 
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No one should be removing great lakes water from the great lakes basin. Nothing makes me more angry than hearing some dry state eyeing our water. I say go suck on some sand, leave our water alone.
This is how I feel about it too. If the only way people can live in an area is to take water away from someone else then it's time to move. Taking Great Lakes water will destroy our environment.
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:42 PM
 
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I didn't know about Alaska, but check out the rabidly "anti-govt", anti-Obama southern red states.
I didn't really want to go there..but yeah...more welfare queens. I wonder how Alabama can afford that Cadillac??????
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:47 PM
 
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He said that - as if Canada has no say? Just what we need, an international water war - but I think his statement was not well thought out. Or else we would have to come to an agreement or dam off Huron and Superior. \

The St. Lawrence is part of the system too.
Well, actually, the governor of New Mexico is a woman....but who cares?

I live in NM for part of each year (guess which part?!?) and my response to people speculating that those big lakes I talk about could be piped to Nuevo Mexico is: Great Lakes water can only be shipped as a malt-flavored beverage in 12 oz cans or bottles. Seems to end the argument.
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:51 PM
 
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I certainly agree that the guy is a doofus. Pretty much everything he says is not thought out. He likes to speak and think about it later.
Speaking of, Coldjensens......the "guy" is a Republican Hispanic woman..LOL
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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You are partly mistaken. While water from Superior does travel into Huron, Erie, and Ontario (not Michigan), along the way it is evaporating and mixing with water that drains into the other lakes ("watershed").

http://www.ohiodnr.com/LinkClick.asp...%3d&tabid=9282

So, for example, if you were to drink water out of the St. Lawrence Seaway, it would be approximately 1/5 Superior water.
Lake Huron and Lake Michigan are, in geologic terms, one lake...so it's likely that some Superior water does find it's way into LM, on it's way to the Mississippi and the Gulf.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Ann Arbor
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lol uhm I don't speak for yoopers but I'm sure they'll be fine to let go of that college town lol.

I don't get why people rant and rave about AA. Yeah, it's nice but it's small. It does not stand alone. It's just a college town and it's pretty much metro detroit anyway
With complete respect intended, the average american (and I mean this in the truly statistical sense i.e. by the majority, by the numbers, etc...) wants far more in terms of resources, infrastructure, etc., than the UP has to offer. UP people like UP and some other people like UP. The majority of Americans have very little interest in living in a rustic, rugged, low convenience area. Just look at population distribution in this country. Most people choose to settle much closer to civilization because it is convenient. If you are a UP type of person that's fine but you'll be getting the short end of the stick by being so stubborn and individualistic and thinking you are going to do it on your own. And I support the Alaska premise too! I don't want the UP to have statehood at the heavy cost of my federal taxes supplementing a state that is fiscally un-viable to please some rugged individualists. This is clearly a good of the few vs the good of the many thing. 750,000 people shouldn't cost 250,000,000 Americans pointless money to supplement their irresponsible individualism.

The whole concept of succeeding is kind of fanciful anyway. It's not going to happen. The UP doesn't have enough voters to carry the move. And don't even try to convince me that the UP is going to violently succeed. The national guard would come up there immediately and reduce the population even more. I love this country and people who make comments like f*ck Detroit, or, we only like us, make me sick. Who do you think you are to exclude yourself from the rest of Americans. I've made my socialist views known in the past. Americans need to wake up a realize that this rampant individualism is a sickness that prevents us from uniting to make a better place for all. You may hate Detroit, you may love Detroit. You may think the UP is sophisticated and everyone in the LP is a troll or whatever. You're wrong. You aren't better than anyone else. Get off your damn high horse. Obviously being in a homogeneously small area has blurred your understanding of reality. America and statehood and these types of things aren't vanity choices. Wanting to break away from your state or country is un-patriotic.
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Ann Arbor
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Hey, I live in the U.P. I LOVE our beautiful fresh water.....I should have said...."keep your stinkin' hands off our precious water". Just the thought of anyone taking/stealing our water makes me very angry
That water belongs to the people of the United States of America and the people of the State of Michigan. Not to UPer's individually. It is not collective property of the UP. Get off the garbage. You may think that; but spend a couple hours in a law library and you'll discover how far off base you are.
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Old 05-05-2012, 04:56 AM
 
Location: State of Superior
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You have gone too far off the road, must be the medication..I can see you have never been here before. If you think we are backward hillbillies then fine, but are wrong most of us are happy just the way they are.We want to be left alone. We do not want anyone to tell us what to do, and that includes Lansing. It's for good reason, looking back. Just remember our independ ways.,and we will be fine. The people here do not care for Lower Michigan or Indiana, Wi. ,Ill this is one of the reasons we will never get statehood , people are to independent to vote for any thing, except in a national election. That's one of the reasons we came here was to be left alone. I would compare the UP to Vermont and or Maine. Statehood sounds great, and we DO have the brains to do it, maybe just not the time, cause that might cut into our fishing, deer hunting,cutting firewood, and also our winter trip to Paris.
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