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Old 01-17-2008, 05:11 PM
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I just read that in 3 years 3.25 mil. people will have moved away from michigan due to state problems, dont forget to turn out the lights........!
Where did you see that number? Curious to read that article.

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Old 01-17-2008, 07:10 PM
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How many moved in?

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Old 01-17-2008, 07:42 PM
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Looks like 3 million lost is just a bunch of hot air. United States by Region, Division, and States; and Puerto Rico - GCT-T1. Population Estimates

Seems that Michigan has had a fairly steady population level considering the size.

Looking at July 1 of each year from the data provided by the US Census bureau.
2000 - 9,955,417 ----Base figure
2001 - 10,006,963 -- 51546 Gain
2002 - 10,043,737 -- 36774 Gain
2003 - 10,075,217 -- 31480 Gain
2004 - 10,102,720 -- 27503 Gain
2005 - 10,107,940 -- 5220 Gain
2006 - 10,102,322 -- 5618 Loss
2007 - 10,071,822 -- 30500 Loss

So using those figures from the Census Bureau it looks like a loss of 36,118 people from 2005. If we are to lose 3+ million in another year, somebody has to get on the stick and get moving away! I'm going to open a moving business and specialize in out-of-state moves. I should make a couple of million this year, then I can retire. Either that or somebody was pulling figures out of their nether regions.

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Old 01-18-2008, 04:27 PM
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I was born and raised in Saginaw. I'm 33. As a child in school there was security, drug dogs for locker searches, occasional physical pat downs and lots of violence in the schools on a daily basis including shootings and stabbings not to mention the drugs and alcohol. Outside the schools it was and still is the same. As a parent I didn't want my child to grow up in a place where the main priority is the basic instinct of survival so I searched for the smallest town in the nation with the lowest crime rate to make a home. I found that here in Homer Alaska. My sons main priority now is education and of course friends. But to have him come home from school and tell me how bored he was rather than the fights or drug deals or arrests he saw while in school or on his way home makes me the happiest mother in the world.

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Old 01-19-2008, 10:49 PM
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Grew up in MI. Moved around several times w/the military. Settled in GA. Was stuck in a job I really hated, nightmare traffic...Mainly the traffic was horrible...Had to change something, wanted to stay with the company...all the family still in MI...had an offer for a promotion in MI. Took it, we moved there, still had our home in GA, rented an apt.

We lasted about 6months, and realized how truely sad/sorry, pitiful of a place Michigan had become. Luckily, we hadn't sold our home in GA, and moved back. That was it...I guess it was always in the back of my mind because it is the place I had grown up and always been...But I can say without any doubts now, I am very very very lucky and happy to be out of that place and am definately never going to look back again!
Very sad, MI could be such a wonderful place, but is painfully obvious that it never will be!

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Old 01-19-2008, 11:05 PM
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...But I can say without any doubts now, I am very very very lucky and happy to be out of that place and am definately never going to look back again!
For never looking back you spend quite some time on the forum for Michigan bitching about it.

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Old 01-19-2008, 11:13 PM
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For never looking back you spend quite some time on the forum for Michigan bitching about it.
No not really...a couple posts, only took about 15 minutes. Just trying to help the people posting here from making the mistake of moving to a dying state.

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Old 01-19-2008, 11:20 PM
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Sounds like petty bitterness actually.

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Old 01-20-2008, 10:37 AM
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No not really...a couple posts, only took about 15 minutes. Just trying to help the people posting here from making the mistake of moving to a dying state.

It's good for people considering a move to read all sides -- if there aren't jobs, it could still be a good place for people retiring or living off the government because they don't need jobs. In fact -- it can make things more affordable for those retiring. Or if there are still jobs then it's good for those who can get those jobs. Or maybe they need to look at a particular city or region in Michigan for what they need.

I like reading how people are enjoying a nice brisk 4 degree day outdoors. To me that's positive -- but it's going to reach almost 60 degrees where I am now. It's nice to remember though how it felt when it was 4 degrees.

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Old 01-20-2008, 11:46 AM
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If any one moves to Michigan they had better have a job and then I would not bet it will last, or an income that does not rely on working here.
This is going to be a bad time forth next several years and maybe longer.
Michigan is going to hurt and when the presdintial runners said that the jobes were not comming back they were on the money, I do not think the auto jobs are comming back unless you can get oil to 30 a bbl for the next 10 years. We have had high oil for long enough that people will not believe it to last if we do get cheap oil for a bit.
Detroit is not getting the message on what we the american people really want.
Michigan does not have anything to offer but indsutrial might and that is all going over seas now.
You may love the woods of michigan and love the cold. but in reality you are in the minority.
the states with the nice winters will always be a lap ahead of the states that do not.
If you read the book where to retire that comes out every year, no northern states are mentiond, In the front forward this is addressed because some people write in to ask why not my state?
The answer is that no states are considered that you can not go outside and do things in the winter months. I know of some older people who like to ski and snow machine ride. but they are in the minority, If it were not the case why would florida have 2300 people a day moving in? other places like South Carolina and Arkansas Tenn. and Kentucky are doing well also.
When you get 60yo, you do not want to tilt windmills or snow drifts.
The cold is a fight to get to the store, walk without breaking a hip, snow blowing a drive, digging ice off the roof or worring if the car will start.
If you want to argue you can but not with authority that it is a hardship in the north winter months.
The heat some may not like but you dont have to dig out of 90 deg. heat bank, or worry if your car will start because the oil is to thin from the heat. or if you get a freak rain and have snow on your roof if it will cave in. I know of no heat cave ins.
You may argue that there are storms in fla, or tornados in texas, ture, but Many will take their chances and not have to layer up just to get the mail.

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