11-18-2007, 07:12 PM
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Hi Everyone,
My boyfriend has received orders to Michigan. We will be moving there sometime between Jan-March. In his welcome package they have asked him where he would like to be stationed. We are interested in moving to Grand Rapids or somewhere in the southwest region however we do not know much about the areas besides what we have read online.
Where would you recommend for us?
I'll tell you a little about us and what we are looking for in an area.
We are both 26.
Would like to live in a place that has a decent amount of younger people and is fairly military friendly.
We enjoy the outdoors (snowboarding, beaches, hiking, camping, parks).
We like going to bars once in a while.
We would like to live very close (maybe even within walking/cycling distance) to a beach. Living in a beach town would be wonderful!
A pretty safe and clean area.
We will be buying a home and would like to spend no more than $180,000.
We do not want to live in the middle of nowhere, living in a built up area would be good, near stores, a movie theater, a gym, parks, restaurants etc...
A decent public transportation system would be a bonus but, not a must.
I would appreciate any USEFUL input.
Thank you in advance!
Joey
11-18-2007, 07:41 PM
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New Baltimore/Chesterfield Township about 30 miles of Detroit is where we live. Close to Lake St. Clair, near Selfridge Air Base lots of bars, nightlife and about 1/2 or so from Downtown Detroit. Pretty safe area. You can go to Detroit for the sporting events, Casinos and even go across the bridge/tunnel and be in another country - Canada. You can go a little further north too. SMART buses is the transportation and run frequently on Gratiot Ave. Lot of good shopping nearby. Nordstroms, Penney, Macy's and LOTS of restaurants too. I think you would like it. Good Luck in your move and welcome to Michigan! (It's not as bad as you hear - we'll come back again - we always do.)
11-18-2007, 07:59 PM
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Thank you for your feedback however, we are not interested in moving to Detroit or that side of the state.
Could you maybe tell me about Grand Rapids or the towns and cities in the South West region of Michigan?
Maybe a little about Grand Haven, Kalamazoo, Benton Harbor, St Joseph etc... We don't know much about either of these places (besides what I have read online). Please take in to consideration our age, lifestyle etc...
Thank you
11-19-2007, 06:08 AM
Location: West Michigan
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Would like to live in a place that has a decent amount of younger people and is fairly military friendly.
Biggest question is what do you consider built up? If just services and not so much population, my first thought is Ludington.
Fair amount of young people, and while not many military living there, they do support and back the military.
Home of a FABULOUS State Park where you can lay on a beach, hike, fish, boat, camp all Summer, or snowshoe, hike, sled all Winter. Plus Ludington is a short drive to a couple of downhill ski areas during the winter.
Several nice bars, and a couple of seedy ones as well.
Has one of the best beaches in an area where all the beaches are very, very good.
Very easy to get a LOT of home for 180k, should be able to find something across the street from the beach for that.
Again, what is your definition of "built-up"? Ludington has small stores as well as the usual big-box stores. A couple of Gyms, as well as a couple of Martial Arts schools also. New (within the last 4 or 5 years) 8 screen theater. Several good restaurants. Can't really say about the state of public transportation, never used it and have always had my own vehicle. Very safe and clean city, one of the best to live in and one of the best to raise kids in (if that is in future plans).
11-19-2007, 06:09 AM
Location: East Grand Rapids, MI
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Grand Haven
I'd say you're a textbook match for Grand Haven.you don't stay, your home value should be safe), nice downtown, beach within walking distance.
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11-19-2007, 08:00 AM
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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I'd agree with Grand Haven, definitely. You can find a few great pubs in Grand Haven, and then make a few trips to "sin city" Grand Rapids (as they call us in Holland
) to go to some of the best bars, clubs and restaurants in the region.
I think you'll find a pretty warm welcome for someone in the military anywhere in West Michigan. You might see a few anti-war rallies in downtown GR though. But hey, that's what we're fighting for, right?
11-19-2007, 08:01 AM
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Anywhere in the Grand Rapids, Holland, Grand Haven area would be great. Close beaches, trails, parks and recreation. Plenty of available culture, shopping and night life, and a great place to raise a family, too. Lots of affordable housing (especially with the downturn in the housing market right now). It's no more than 30 minutes to anywhere in the area.
11-19-2007, 10:28 AM
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Thank you to everyone for your advice, we appreciate it!
Yes, my boyfriend is going to be recruiting out in Michigan. We will be moving from Hampton Roads, Virginia (close to Virginia Beach).
When I say "Built up", I mean somewhere that has a movie theater, a park, a mall, a super store or two, restaurants etc... very close by or within a ten minutes drive or so away. Somewhere that has a good amount of people is pretty important to me (I have been a city dweller my whole life) but, not my boyfriend so maybe we can come to some kind of agreement.
From the other threads about Holland on the Michigan forum it does not sound like Holland would be somewhere we would enjoy living. Holland sounds like a very conservative and Christian town.......thats not us. We are not religious and we like to party once in a while and we have somewhat liberal views.
Right now Grand Rapids and Grand Haven sound most appealing. I like the idea of living in a beach town like Grand Haven but, I like the sound of the diversity in Grand Rapids.
Please, keep posting, I'm interested in hearing more
11-19-2007, 10:37 AM
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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Here's a great slideshow of downtown Grand Haven, the channel and the lakeshore:Grand Haven slideshow on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62831350@N00/sets/72157594191239214/show/ - broken link)
11-19-2007, 10:55 AM
Location: East Grand Rapids, MI
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If you really start thinking about Grand Rapids, I'm sure we can give you a host of options there. If proximity to the beach is an issue, you'll need to look at the west side of town (Grandville->Beach = 30 minutes, Ada->Beach is closer to an hour depending on where you're located).
Grand Haven has all the big boxes you'd expect in the 21st century, a great old residential area attached to the actually city of Grand Haven, and more water than you can shake a stick at.
It's obviously smaller (11,000 people vs. 200,000 people) and it's pretty religious (welcome to West Michigan) but I don't think you'll find it too opressive or anything. I really like the town and would live there in a heartbeat if I wasn't commuting to G.R.
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Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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