[OyCrumbler]

Originally Posted by magellan

AGREED! Ask the residents of Kalamazoo what kind of safeguards Enbridge had in their pipelines in the Kalamazoo River.

There is no such thing as "fail safe." There is no such thing as 0 PARTS PER MILLION defective. There is no such thing as infinite redundancies. All of these things are driven by cost and profit (and I say that as a business owner). There is no allowable measure of risk for the Straits of Mackinaw. Especially since the pipeline doesn't serve Michigan. It goes from one part of Canada to another. Larry Bell of Bell's Brewery says it best:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHWeewFXnGM

I thought the Great Lakes and an abundance of clean fresh water was supposed to be one of the primary advantages of Michigan. This doesn't seem to play to that advantage at all. Is the hope that the lakes are so voluminous that any potential leakage or burst will be reduced down to a non-catastrophic level?

[magellan]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

I thought the Great Lakes and an abundance of clean fresh water was supposed to be one of the primary advantages of Michigan. This doesn't seem to play to that advantage at all. Is the hope that the lakes are so voluminous that any potential leakage or burst will be reduced down to a non-catastrophic level?

Enbridge Oil, the owners of the pipeline, have a HUGE amount of influence on the Lansing legislature. Part of me wonders if they are sending goons into Lansing threatening people with broken kneecaps.

Hopefully the new governor Whitmer will not put up with Enbridge's bull****.

[MikeBear]

Originally Posted by magellan

Enbridge Oil, the owners of the pipeline, have a HUGE amount of influence on the Lansing legislature. Part of me wonders if they are sending goons into Lansing threatening people with broken kneecaps.

Hopefully the new governor Whitmer will not put up with Enbridge's bull****.

Far more likely they are lining politician's pockets with cash, and those crooks don't want the money to quit.

[Coldjensens]

Originally Posted by magellan

Enbridge Oil, the owners of the pipeline, have a HUGE amount of influence on the Lansing legislature. Part of me wonders if they are sending goons into Lansing threatening people with broken kneecaps.

Hopefully the new governor Whitmer will not put up with Enbridge's bull****.

Whitmer can and will do nothing. Posturing, fingerprinting, partisan gamesmanship - plenty of that, but she will not be able to do anything and would be unlikely to even if she could.

Line 5 and Nestle water stealing are both really aggravating issues, but given their massive publicity campaigns and undoubted massive political contributions, it is unlikely anything will ever be done about either until it becomes a crises.

[Matthew_MI]

Line 5 someday will rupture, accidents happen. It will be devastating to that beautiful area. Voters have no say, look what happened with the gas tax. It's not a democracy, it's a dictatorship. Governor has absolute power. Left a mess in Flint and now will create a future disaster in the straits. His pension should be reduced to minimum wage, and he should be doing community service in Flint.