[mostie]

Where did you move from, bluebird?

[bluebird39]

Hi there,

I moved from Southern Oregon.

[allistercrowly]

Crime is very low in Gaylord. But there are not jobs either. Many people worked a GP plywood, or K-bite or one of several other companies that went out of business. Prices for homes have plummeted. It hit a peak in 99 when the AVG home price in Gaylord hit 169,000. Now you would be lucky to get 99,000 for the same home. Personally Gaylord is a Podunk small town with nothing to do. Traverse City has much more to offer and in the summer is much more beautiful than Gaylord will ever be. TC has parks with beaches and a neat down town with coffee shops. Or you can take a short drive to the sleeping bear sand dunes, or the lelanau Peninsula and go to some wine tasting shops. So much more to do and the homes in the Victorian district are so much nicer then anything that Gaylord has to offer. If you buy in Gaylord do not plan on selling anytime soon.

[JGatti]

Originally Posted by allistercrowly

Crime is very low in Gaylord. But there are not jobs either. Many people worked a GP plywood, or K-bite or one of several other companies that went out of business. Prices for homes have plummeted. It hit a peak in 99 when the AVG home price in Gaylord hit 169,000. Now you would be lucky to get 99,000 for the same home. Personally Gaylord is a Podunk small town with nothing to do. Traverse City has much more to offer and in the summer is much more beautiful than Gaylord will ever be. TC has parks with beaches and a neat down town with coffee shops. Or you can take a short drive to the sleeping bear sand dunes, or the lelanau Peninsula and go to some wine tasting shops. So much more to do and the homes in the Victorian district are so much nicer then anything that Gaylord has to offer. If you buy in Gaylord do not plan on selling anytime soon.

I can't say I agree with this. Depending on what activities you enjoy Gaylord has a lot to do. Many people find Gaylord just the right size with far lower taxes and home prices than T.C. It's not exactly fair to compare a city that sits on such a large body of water to an inland city, not to mention how much bigger it is. As you mention Sleeping Bear dunes is a short drive, how far is it to the bridge from T.C? So I guess if you like Mackinac Island you have yourself a nice drive. If you like to snowmobile you can drive just about anywhere in Gaylord as opposed to TC. They also have a lot of nice clean public beaches, the ice rink and swimming pool. Golf, lakes for boating, the ORV trails are not far either.
I think both cities have different things to offer different people. Many people will not like the over crowded area of T.C. It's a pretty BIG city. If you like city life T.C is great. If you want the best of both worlds I think Gaylord is great. Although Gaylord will never be a Traverse City, they do offer a lot of downtown festivals, a small town atmosphere combined with just about any retail you could need. Also a good sized movie theater. Maybe no big strip malls, but if your looking to move up north and get away from city life. Traverse City is hardly the place to move to. But Gaylord fit's that bill fairly well.
Oh I almost left out. I do agree with the lack of jobs. Sad but true reality of that small of a town. However they are trying to lure in some new businesses into the old Georgia Pacific plant.

[allistercrowly]

Originally Posted by JGatti

I can't say I agree with this. Depending on what activities you enjoy Gaylord has a lot to do. Many people find Gaylord just the right size with far lower taxes and home prices than T.C. It's not exactly fair to compare a city that sits on such a large body of water to an inland city, not to mention how much bigger it is. As you mention Sleeping Bear dunes is a short drive, how far is it to the bridge from T.C? So I guess if you like Mackinac Island you have yourself a nice drive. If you like to snowmobile you can drive just about anywhere in Gaylord as opposed to TC. They also have a lot of nice clean public beaches, the ice rink and swimming pool. Golf, lakes for boating, the ORV trails are not far either.
I think both cities have different things to offer different people. Many people will not like the over crowded area of T.C. It's a pretty BIG city. If you like city life T.C is great. If you want the best of both worlds I think Gaylord is great. Although Gaylord will never be a Traverse City, they do offer a lot of downtown festivals, a small town atmosphere combined with just about any retail you could need. Also a good sized movie theater. Maybe no big strip malls, but if your looking to move up north and get away from city life. Traverse City is hardly the place to move to. But Gaylord fit's that bill fairly well.
Oh I almost left out. I do agree with the lack of jobs. Sad but true reality of that small of a town. However they are trying to lure in some new businesses into the old Georgia Pacific plant.

The island is not something I would think you have to live close to, or the bridge. So it is an extra few miles when you go once a year. TC is not a big town. Any one who thinks that should put the wheels back on their trailer and load up granny and have Jethro take them to the big city down state and see the Elephant. The reason homes are a bit more expensive in TC is because it is so much more beautiful than most of the area around. Petoskey is the only city of any size that has anything close to TC. TC homes also will sell and hold their value much better than Gaylord. I lived in Gaylord for most of my life, and there is nothing much to do there, and nothing that can not be done in much greater variety in TC. TC is also much more sophisticated in the restaurants and arts than Gaylord. The down town of Gaylord is dying. I have watched it dry up little by little over the last several years. But hey if it does it for someone I have no reason to gripe at them. For me TC has so much more to offer that if I were to make a choice I would go with TC with home prices down, now is the time to buy.

[JGatti]

Originally Posted by allistercrowly

The island is not something I would think you have to live close to, or the bridge. So it is an extra few miles when you go once a year. TC is not a big town. Any one who thinks that should put the wheels back on their trailer and load up granny and have Jethro take them to the big city down state and see the Elephant. The reason homes are a bit more expensive in TC is because it is so much more beautiful than most of the area around. Petoskey is the only city of any size that has anything close to TC. TC homes also will sell and hold their value much better than Gaylord. I lived in Gaylord for most of my life, and there is nothing much to do there, and nothing that can not be done in much greater variety in TC. TC is also much more sophisticated in the restaurants and arts than Gaylord. The down town of Gaylord is dying. I have watched it dry up little by little over the last several years. But hey if it does it for someone I have no reason to gripe at them. For me TC has so much more to offer that if I were to make a choice I would go with TC with home prices down, now is the time to buy.

I guess we can agree to disagree. With the exception of saying TC in not big. Compared to Detroit or Flint or other major cities? No it's not big. But compared to Gaylord, Grayling, Mio, Cadillac, and most cities North of Saginaw....yes it's a good sized city. I lived in Rapid City and worked in T.C. The people I worked with always complained about how big the city had gotten and they HATED the traffic. That was 15 years ago. Only points I was trying to make is Gaylord is not as bad as you make it out to be, and if people want to move away from the city life.....Traverse is not the place to move.
As far as dying Kohls, and Meijer should have consulted you before building there. Along with Super Wal-Mart, Ruby Tuesday's and all of the other companies that opened since Kmart did. When I was like 8. LOL Your not going to move to Gaylord and be rich wish luxury, but life is not always about that.

[allistercrowly]

Originally Posted by JGatti

I guess we can agree to disagree. With the exception of saying TC in not big. Compared to Detroit or Flint or other major cities? No it's not big. But compared to Gaylord, Grayling, Mio, Cadillac, and most cities North of Saginaw....yes it's a good sized city. I lived in Rapid City and worked in T.C. The people I worked with always complained about how big the city had gotten and they HATED the traffic. That was 15 years ago. Only points I was trying to make is Gaylord is not as bad as you make it out to be, and if people want to move away from the city life.....Traverse is not the place to move.
As far as dying Kohls, and Meijer should have consulted you before building there. Along with Super Wal-Mart, Ruby Tuesday's and all of the other companies that opened since Kmart did. When I was like 8. LOL Your not going to move to Gaylord and be rich wish luxury, but life is not always about that.

First off Meijer’s has been looking to build in Gaylord for the last 25 years. I knew the man who worked with them to find property 20 years ago. They first off made a deal with Arthurs next to Save A lot. The problem was when Arthurs figured out that they would be on the hook for all the oil, Auto Transmission fluid, and Antifreeze on the ground, and they would be on the hook for all that toxic waste clean up. Not new news there. And Ruby Tuesdays and Wal-Mart have been there for 13 years. You act like there is some big building boom. Most of the things you site have been in the pipe line for the last 20 years or more. As far as TC traffic, I doubt you have seen 32 in Gaylord on a busy day. I have not seen traffic like that in TC. It is Miserable in Gaylord. I will bet you that 9 out of 10 people who spend a week in TC and Gaylord will take TC over Gaylord every time. As far as home prices, they are not that much over Gaylord. And they seem to hold their value much better than Gaylord. I was born and raised in the Gaylord area and know it better than most. I would not move there over TC if I have any choice in the mater. Ask 99% of all Gaylord residents and when the do a day out, they drive to TC.

[JGatti]

Originally Posted by allistercrowly

First off Meijer’s has been looking to build in Gaylord for the last 25 years. I knew the man who worked with them to find property 20 years ago. They first off made a deal with Arthurs next to Save A lot. The problem was when Arthurs figured out that they would be on the hook for all the oil, Auto Transmission fluid, and Antifreeze on the ground, and they would be on the hook for all that toxic waste clean up. Not new news there. And Ruby Tuesdays and Wal-Mart have been there for 13 years. You act like there is some big building boom. Most of the things you site have been in the pipe line for the last 20 years or more. As far as TC traffic, I doubt you have seen 32 in Gaylord on a busy day. I have not seen traffic like that in TC. It is Miserable in Gaylord. I will bet you that 9 out of 10 people who spend a week in TC and Gaylord will take TC over Gaylord every time. As far as home prices, they are not that much over Gaylord. And they seem to hold their value much better than Gaylord. I was born and raised in the Gaylord area and know it better than most. I would not move there over TC if I have any choice in the mater. Ask 99% of all Gaylord residents and when the do a day out, they drive to TC.

You know.... I had this whole response all written out then I thought " why bother?". You hate Gaylord, I get it. That's fine hate it all you want I bet your neighbors are glad your gone. I honestly cannot understand why you seem so angry and the need to slam it and try to speak intelligently about what 9 out of 10 people would want. Well I am that 1 out of the 10 that would choose Gaylord over T.C if I had the chance. I'll deal with the 1 heavy traffic road as opposed to living in a city, the day will come where the county will fix their mistake and do what needs to be done to lesson the congestion. Because I know that in any direction out of Gaylord lies everything that I love about the area. Lakes, tree's, two trackers, snowmobile trails, good fishing, good hunting etc. I can speak for me, I won't assume I know what the other 9 want. But as for me, Gaylord has just the right amount of everything. Want to skate? I can skate. Want to swim in an indoor pool? I can. Hit a movie? No problem. Go to a beach? Take my pick. Hunt? Call any of my fiends i the area. Fish? Do it with an old friend on one of many lakes. Grocery store? More than enough. Need a new gun or real? Go to Jay's. Need to buy beer? Hop's and Schnapps. Everything I need is there,and that's all that matters to me. I like T.C also don't get me wrong. But you won't sell me on Gaylord being the crumbling dump of a cesspool you make it out to be.

[allistercrowly]

Never said it was a "cesspool" and I would not tell you that what trips your trigger is wrong for you. But I personally would not take Gaylord over Petoskey and I would not take Petoskey over TC. Each person has to make their own decision. I will take folgerllies over Hops and schnapps, and the fishing is great in the many lakes around TC. If you want life in the sticks there is always Wolverine. I prefer the quaint atmosphere in TC. Although I moved south because of the whole Michigan economy going into the pit of despair, and a 12% unemployment rate and rising. The only thing in gaylord I miss is Brothers coffee house.

[JGatti]

Originally Posted by allistercrowly

Never said it was a "cesspool" and I would not tell you that what trips your trigger is wrong for you. But I personally would not take Gaylord over Petoskey and I would not take Petoskey over TC. Each person has to make their own decision. I will take folgerllies over Hops and schnapps, and the fishing is great in the many lakes around TC. If you want life in the sticks there is always Wolverine. I prefer the quaint atmosphere in TC. Although I moved south because of the whole Michigan economy going into the pit of despair, and a 12% unemployment rate and rising. The only thing in gaylord I miss is Brothers coffee house.

I think maybe you should read your own posts again. In so many words you pretty much said Gaylord is a dump, at least that's what I got from your posts.