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Old 03-18-2021, 05:44 PM
 
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Not sure where DaniellaG is getting her info from, but Michigan is far from being the leader in cases (same with CA). Confirmed cases per 100K are highest in the Dakotas (Sturgis FTW). Michigan is actually on the low end.

Source: https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...20York%20Times.

Michigan's 7-day average is around 2,500 cases. Way below, say, Texas and Florida (4,500), both of which are wide open. And all of them are much lower than New York (6,500). But a flat number isn't a fair comparison; you have to take population into account.

A bit concerning is that new cases in MI have been on the rise in the past week. Not sure what this is due to.
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Old 03-18-2021, 05:59 PM
 
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Not sure where DaniellaG is getting her info from, but Michigan is far from being the leader in cases (same with CA). Confirmed cases per 100K are highest in the Dakotas (Sturgis FTW). Michigan is actually on the low end.

Source: https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...20York%20Times.

Michigan's 7-day average is around 2,500 cases. Way below, say, Texas and Florida (4,500), both of which are wide open. And all of them are much lower than New York (6,500). But a flat number isn't a fair comparison; you have to take population into account.

A bit concerning is that new cases in MI have been on the rise in the past week. Not sure what this is due to.

Texas has 30 million people and FL 22 million. MI has 10 million
Our cases are higher per capita then both
For Texas to be higher they would have to have 7500 cases a day cause they have 3 times are population
I just read online on many articles that yesterday we were 5th nation and today 1st. They may be one day delayed
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Old 03-18-2021, 06:06 PM
 
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What I have realized is if you like Whitmer there is no amount of facts someone can state to change your mind. Everyone has the right to their own opinion

I’m stating facts based on the weekly average we have worse numbers then FL and TX fully open states that’s per capita

For the severe restrictions we should be in the top states doing well. So regardless if we’re number 1,5 or 20 for worse numbers something isn’t working after a whole year

https://www.wxyz.com/news/coronaviru...covid-19-cases
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Old 03-18-2021, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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It's being blamed on school sports/other school activities, but not necessarily classroom learning. Looks like restaurants have completed their tenure as public enemy #1 like gyms and hair salons already have.
It is paint causing covid. Blame paint. That worked well before.
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Old 03-18-2021, 06:56 PM
 
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Thanks for pointing out this article, Danielle. I hadn't seen that one yet.



According to the article, we are second in the nation for levels of a high spreading variant.


Apparently, a whole lot of people aren't bothering to quarantine once they become sick. What's most alarming is the very rapid spread over the past couple of weeks.

What's happened over the past few weeks? Loosening of restrictions.
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Old 03-18-2021, 09:52 PM
 
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What I have realized is if you like Whitmer there is no amount of facts someone can state to change your mind. Everyone has the right to their own opinion
Same can be said for any other politician (or any other individual, really).
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I’m stating facts based on the weekly average we have worse numbers then FL and TX fully open states that’s per capita
Texas currently has a 7-day rolling average of 4,592 cases. Florida has 4,491. California has 2,891. Michigan 2,531. Of the four states, Michigan has the worst rolling average per 100K population (25.3), and rising, which I've pointed out. California has the best (7.3), which proves one of your points wrong. Texas has 15.8 and Florida has 20.9. That's one data point.

Total cases is another. Of the three states, Texas leads with 9.5 cases per 100. Florida is second, with 9.3. California is close with 9.2. Michigan has 6.8. Pretty sure Whitmer won't be judged by the 7-day rolling average. As total numbers go, this is pretty telling. Whitmer's "draconian" measures at the beginning of the pandemic certainly have more than a little to do with it. So, too DeSanctis's lack thereof. Would be very curious to see where Abbott will have taken his state in two weeks' time.

It must be said that Michigan's death rate is dire in comparison. 25 per 1000 cases vs. Texas (17), Florida (16) an California (just below 16). Nursing homes are surely part of it, but so too are the disadvantaged communities hit hardest by the virus.
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Old 03-18-2021, 09:55 PM
 
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Apparently, a whole lot of people aren't bothering to quarantine once they become sick. What's most alarming is the very rapid spread over the past couple of weeks.
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According to the state, about 70% of people are not isolating once they start showing symptoms.
That's nuts.
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Old 03-21-2021, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Same can be said for any other politician (or any other individual, really).
Texas currently has a 7-day rolling average of 4,592 cases. Florida has 4,491. California has 2,891. Michigan 2,531. Of the four states, Michigan has the worst rolling average per 100K population (25.3), and rising, which I've pointed out. California has the best (7.3), which proves one of your points wrong. Texas has 15.8 and Florida has 20.9. That's one data point.

Total cases is another. Of the three states, Texas leads with 9.5 cases per 100. Florida is second, with 9.3. California is close with 9.2. Michigan has 6.8. Pretty sure Whitmer won't be judged by the 7-day rolling average. As total numbers go, this is pretty telling. Whitmer's "draconian" measures at the beginning of the pandemic certainly have more than a little to do with it. So, too DeSanctis's lack thereof. Would be very curious to see where Abbott will have taken his state in two weeks' time.

It must be said that Michigan's death rate is dire in comparison. 25 per 1000 cases vs. Texas (17), Florida (16) an California (just below 16). Nursing homes are surely part of it, but so too are the disadvantaged communities hit hardest by the virus.
If you play with the metrics enough, you can make stats show whatever you want. 7 days is not very meaningful. Perhaps more accurately it is not meaningful at all.
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Old 03-21-2021, 11:37 AM
 
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If you play with the metrics enough, you can make stats show whatever you want. 7 days is not very meaningful. Perhaps more accurately it is not meaningful at all.
Correct. That’s basically what I said.
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Old 03-22-2021, 08:53 AM
 
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Correct. That’s basically what I said.
yup. That is called agreeing with you. People use to do that back in the old days.
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