12-31-2006, 11:27 PM
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Hi everyone,
Happy New Year! I enjoyed reading all that torrid had said and the replies. I am originally from LM...born in Livonia. My parents live in the thumb...but as a young child I would often go to the porcupine mountains with my Dad. I few years ago, I realized how much I really love the UP...and how it is "in my blood" so to speak...I long to live there. I live in NC now...and last Christmas I visited Calumet and in the summer I was in Iron Mountain...I am a single Mom of 4...ages 7,8,10 and 12. I feel that moving to the UP would give my children a better life. I am very much into the outdoors...I love the lakes and trees and rocks and especially snow... the UP is probably the most friendly place I've been..I am prior air force and I have lived overseas...and I know I belong in the UP. Now, I know someone said you need to have a job before you move...but I had applied for VA jobs in Iron Mountain..that I was qualified for..and I was turned down...I have associates degree...I currently am a TA in special needs. I also work at the boys and girls club and I am a server at golden corral. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should do...to make my dream of living in the UP come true? Also, are there any good, faithful, Christian men in the UP? I am sure that there are...and yes I have a "YOOPER" plate on my car
01-01-2007, 02:58 AM
Location: Land of the Roo's
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Hiya Yooper at heart
Happy New Year to you as well
Ive been doing alot of research on the UP as i will be moving there soon as im done selling everything off here downunder.
The family & i will be moving to Menominee County. Even tho my wife was born there & lived the first 36 years of her life ,shes out of touch as things can change very quickly at times.
I suggest that you look up all the info that you are after on the net,as i have found that to be very much on the pace of change & use the local newspapers online for the county/district that you plan to move too.
I also look for info on the local chamber of commerce websites, ive found answers to some questions that i have listed down for myself & email them if you cant find it. Most chambers welcome questions ive found, if you tell them your planning to move to there county/district, as you will be adding to the local economy to improve it in your own way by living there.
I have found a little info here, but you need to do the hard yards yourself for the real answers.
Good luck on your quest
& hope you find all the info your after.
01-01-2007, 09:03 AM
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Thank you AussieMale for your reply..Best of luck to you and your family on your move...I have done a lot of online research for a couple of years...I have local newspapers and last summer, after visiting Iron Mountain, I brought home a bunch of info from the chamber of commerce. I also registered at Michigan works, got local phone books, got applications..etc...The biggest question I have is...should I just sell my house and go? I know in the middle of winter probably isn't the time...as it might snow here in NC once a year ..if that..LOL...also..I am sure it doesn't "sound" wise...as I am a single mother of four...I honestly believe that there is "a place" for me and my 4 children in the UP...I talked to many people when I was in the UP...and asked them questions...on how they liked living there...and everyone was postive and friendly...and now I just need to keep praying and hopefully my dream will become reality...thanks again for your reply...Have a good new years day!
01-01-2007, 09:24 PM
Location: Land of the Roo's
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Hi Yooper at heart
It comes down to this $$$$$ & how much you have of it.
I have seen houses for less than $50k that you can move into, as there in good condition so the adverts say.
So if you were selling the house that you live in for say $250k & that went to your pocket then i would sell up make the move, maybe buy that house for $50k or less, maybe even rent as rent looks ok from what i have seen approx rent was $600.00 per month for 3/4 beds.
Dump the balance of your $$$$$ in the bank for some interest.Then look for any kinda job so it helps pay the bills & with the small amount of interest you get as well you try to make ends met if you can.
I say this as it appears to me in the UP if your already living there you have a better chance of finding a local job no matter what kind it maybe.
What i have said is what i will be doing, if i dont setup a business of some kind.
best of luck
01-01-2007, 10:12 PM
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AussieMale,
Thanks for the advice...I do agree with you...I know a lot of posts on other threads have said to have a "JOB" first...but I really think I need to sell and go...homes are very reasonable for the most part in the UP...and I think that unless I am already living there..."They" won't take me seriously and probably will think I won't stay...If "they" whomever that is...only knew my heart and how much I long to live there...then,,well ya know
( my time frame is to be in the UP around June)...BTW this is off the subject, but I just got to watch the tribute to Steve Irwin tonite with my kids.(made me cry)...we all love him and will miss him and I pray Terri and the kids are doing well...thought I would say that as I am sure You and your family loved him too....Thanks again for the info..Have a good day!
01-04-2007, 09:38 AM
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I love da UP. Gorgeous place full of friendly people. On the one hand, I'd certainly be nervous myself about moving without a job. On the other hand, I know how reluctant many employers are to hire non-locals. It isn't that they like only locals, but employers tend to be understandably leery about hiring someone who doesn't live there.
Best wishes on your move! Keep us posted.
01-05-2007, 03:42 AM
Location: Land of the Roo's
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Hi Mark S.
Do you live in the UP..?
If one makes the move to a township ,there should be no reason for that person to be looked at as an outsider anymore i think.
I have been a employer for many years & i think i would give a new person in town a go, as that shows that they are keen for a job having moved there on the other hand with no job lined up.
The old saying is ( a bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush ).
So if I was in need of new staff i would look for locals & new locals that just moved into the town, before looking at people wanting to move & have the job lined up first, but thats the way i think, as that person that has not moved yet may on the other hand get a better offer than the one that you gave them & leave you out in the cold.
I would only look outside the town if I couldnt find someone that was able to fill that position.
01-05-2007, 09:55 AM
Location: Maine
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Hi Mark S.
Do you live in the UP..?
Nope. But I visited last year and fell in love with the place. You hiring?
We spent time around Marquette, Escanaba, and a few other places. Loved it. It's absolutely gorgeous, and the people were very friendly.
The only thing I had a hard time getting used to: I have lived my entire life west of the Mississippi, and I've been on the west coast almost 10 years now. While in da UP, it really kinda freaked me out to realize that I was in the same time zone as New York City.
01-05-2007, 04:41 PM
Location: Land of the Roo's
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Hi Mark S.
No im not hiring as im still living in Australia , but when we do make the move & after we have settled down & i have a feel for things. I will be looking at setting up some kind of business
.
What kind of business i have no idea at this point. I plan to see if i can come up with some kind of business the townships dont have. The townships are Marinette WI & Menominee MI as i see them as one town altho its 2 different states.
They share the same chamber of commerce,so thats fine by me. Its called the tiwn cities because a river runs down the middle of them. They share the same airport & so on.
I understand the time zone thing it is kinda funny as Menominee is not on the same time zone, county line is where it changes, so if you dont want to live on NY time in the UP, pick living in Menominee county or follow the border between WI & MI as along it you have places live Iron Mountain & Ironwood that are not on the same time zone as NY, so it appears on my old maps/atlas i have of the area.
best of luck to you if your planning a move over that way
01-17-2007, 06:15 PM
Location: The Beautiful U.P.!
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Yooper at heart
Hi everyone,
Happy New Year! I enjoyed reading all that torrid had said and the replies. I am originally from LM...born in Livonia. My parents live in the thumb...but as a young child I would often go to the porcupine mountains with my Dad. I few years ago, I realized how much I really love the UP...and how it is "in my blood" so to speak...I long to live there. I live in NC now...and last Christmas I visited Calumet and in the summer I was in Iron Mountain...I am a single Mom of 4...ages 7,8,10 and 12. I feel that moving to the UP would give my children a better life. I am very much into the outdoors...I love the lakes and trees and rocks and especially snow... the UP is probably the most friendly place I've been..I am prior air force and I have lived overseas...and I know I belong in the UP. Now, I know someone said you need to have a job before you move...but I had applied for VA jobs in Iron Mountain..that I was qualified for..and I was turned down...I have associates degree...I currently am a TA in special needs. I also work at the boys and girls club and I am a server at golden corral. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should do...to make my dream of living in the UP come true? Also, are there any good, faithful, Christian men in the UP? I am sure that there are...and yes I have a "YOOPER" plate on my car
Hi again Yooper. I'm happy to hear you enjoy my thread. If it were just easy to make the move, huh? We are facing the same problem....Do we sell our house and HOPE for something in the U.P........Do we wait for something in the U.P. THEN sell......Do we just say screw it and let this house foreclose and hope to get one in the U.P. before this one goes on our credit LOL (yeah, this thought has crossed our minds lol.....That's how bad we want to move north)......none seems like a better option than the next. We're afraid to go one avenue and it be the wrong avenue. I surely do know how you feel. I say we form our own militia (lol, I was just reading the militia thread) and move into the hills of the Porcupine Mtns!!
Good luck girl!
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Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)