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12-24-2008, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bydand
Third, the hanging of a deer is NOT for display, it is to drain the blood out of the animal and let it "cure" for a time period so they are not so tough. Just like any beef or other meat product you may eat or buy from a restaurant or grocery store.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I took the "hanging up the deer for display thing" to mean mounting a deer head on the wall, like you find in some cottages, taverns, and restaurants.
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12-24-2008, 02:36 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I took the "hanging up the deer for display thing" to mean mounting a deer head on the wall, like you find in some cottages, taverns, and restaurants.
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That didn't cross my mind. I guess it could be taken both ways.
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12-25-2008, 10:28 AM
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Valzena -
I just want to second Bydand's post. I'm probably one of the most passionate supporters of ecological viability and renewable energy and sustainable development.
But your attitudes toward hunting suggest you are not very well versed in the practice and applying urban values.
The overpopulation issue is a HUGE reason to justify hunting. Perhaps every single hunter doesn't think "I'm going to go manage a population today" but it is part of the underlying ethic. I can assure you when limits are set and season lengths are determined by regulators, it is entirely with a focus on utilizing the demand for hunting to carry out necessary actions to maintain healthy populations.
Marquette is by far the most progressive city in the UP - a lot of professionals, doctors, professors. Many partake in silent sports and do not hunt, but I do not know of any who do not respect hunting and its necessity in a wild landscape like the UP.
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01-04-2009, 12:43 AM
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thanks for the reponses. guess i started a bit of debate here on the hunting subject, i wont go into that.
animals may not understand or reason in the same manner, but i believe them to be very intuitive creatures with the gift of expressing deep emotions and understanding. my own opinion, i find it offensive to view animals starving as something beneath human suffering. i feel a great empathy for injured or sick animals just as do for humans in pain. ive been to africa, ive seen alot of things. ive rescued stray dogs and cats for yrs, and done some work with wildlife rescues. i dont see their lives as having less value than my own.
we all have our own opinions, if you disagree so be it. i appreciate your responses and infor on the different areas of the u.p.
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01-06-2009, 05:41 PM
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i live in the west, houghton to be exact and believe me, the crime rate is almost non existant. ive been in the military and lived on the east coast so i have a good living comparison. grew up here and was only gone for a few years of my life. seeing as marquette is the biggest city in the u.p. they have the highest (im assuming) crime rate. as a previous poster stated, the hard part is finding good work.
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01-08-2009, 01:44 PM
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YOU are NOT a deer so it is ludicrous to state they do not have feelings like us. They DO feel fear, pain, loss, anger, etc. I commend you that you are such a fine shot though. Thank you for that.
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01-08-2009, 02:14 PM
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YOU are NOT a deer so it is ludicrous to state they do not have feelings like us. They DO feel fear, pain, loss, anger, etc. I commend you that you are such a fine shot though. Thank you for that.
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and YOU are also NOT a deer so to state like it is fact that they do have feeling like us, is equally ludicrous.
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01-08-2009, 02:23 PM
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I doubt very much that first and foremost on the minds of the hunters is the deer population issues. If it is such a problem , then why not have hunting season year round ? I am not against hunting , if , that is your thought , and , there must be a better argument , for going out into the woods with a big gun. Lets face it , its all about the hunt , the killing , the power over the animal , and , like I said , the male bonding at the deer camp.......If you hunt for food , then , I understand , but , those days have long past for most .
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Our main meat is version and caribou. We also provide our own fish.
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01-08-2009, 02:29 PM
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Quote:
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YOU are NOT a deer so it is ludicrous to state they do not have feelings like us. They DO feel fear, pain, loss, anger, etc. I commend you that you are such a fine shot though. Thank you for that.
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Every see one stuck kicking in the windshield of a car??? Every see the child being kicked?? The choice is yours.
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01-08-2009, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Driller1
Our main meat is version and caribou. We also provide our own fish.
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Good for you. Considering the economy , there may be a lot more out there , thinking about going into the woods......
The whole deer hunting thing has been mostly driven by tradition , handed down generation to generation. I said that before , and , here in the Marquette area , I do think the hunters eat their kill , for the most part. Take a Yoopers guns away , and , ban deer season , would start a succession effort , from troll land , for sure !. ( Maybe I should start a rumor , lol )......
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