[Yac]

Everybody please calm down. There is no need to get personal.
Yac.

[magellan]

Originally Posted by One Thousand

Why aren't new businesses starting or moving to MI? With the location, it seems like it'd be great for everything.

Actually, they are. "Starting", "locating" and "expanding", all three.

[One Thousand]

Originally Posted by magellan

Actually, they are. "Starting", "locating" and "expanding", all three.

Source?

[magellan]

Originally Posted by One Thousand

Source?

Grand Rapids Press
Grand Rapids Business Journal
WOODTV
WZZM
Crain's Business Detroit
Business Review
Lansing State Journal
Ann Arbor News
Muskegon Chronicle
Holland Sentinel
Issue Media Group
MiBiz
Detroit Free Press
The Right Place Program
Spark Ann Arbor
Kalamazoo Gazette

I don't know all the Detroit area media outlets, so there's probably a lot I'm missing.

If you want actual articles, I'm afraid I can't possibly research and post the 1000's of articles just over the past year. There are entire news divisions/outlets devoted to business news.

And as someone else mentioned, it's at least nice to know Michigan has a balanced budget, unlike the Feds and several other states.


OK, just to not leave you hanging, here's just a sampling from recent news (past couple of months):

http://www.mlive.com/grpress/news/in...d_more_th.html
http://www.wwj.com/Accretive-Health-...it-Too/3024538
http://blog.mlive.com/chronicle/2008...on_includ.html
http://www.mlive.com/kzgazette/news/...s_unprece.html
http://www.rapidgrowthmedia.com/timnews/jobs0925.aspx
http://www.mlive.com/businessreview/..._grow_gra.html
http://www.mlive.com/businessreview/...for_aeros.html
http://blog.mlive.com/grpress/2008/0...ming_call.html
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_stor...94505&catid=14
(from what I hear, this is a 95% done deal)
http://www.rapidgrowthmedia.com/timn...rrigo0918.aspx
http://www.mlive.com/grpress/busines...undbreaki.html

Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't say there's a boom of any sort, as there are still manufacturing jobs related to automotive parts manufacturing being lost in West Michigan, but there are a lot of out-of-state companies checking out West Michigan all the time. We also should get news in the next few weeks about another large call center opening in the Grand Rapids metro area and a MASSIVE solar plant opening up, both from companies outside of Michigan. Priceline is also considering moving their New York operations to Grand Rapids (in addition to their new big call center they just opened). I'm sure there are just as many expansions in the Detroit area (Ann Arbor probably the most). It's just hard to hear about them over all the crap being spewed by the MSM.

[One Thousand]

State references. (I hope you don't trust the media!)

I would expect there's a record of businesses closing down vs. opening.

Originally Posted by magellan

Grand Rapids Press
Grand Rapids Business Journal
WOODTV
WZZM
Crain's Business Detroit
Business Review
Lansing State Journal
Ann Arbor News
Muskegon Chronicle
Holland Sentinel
Issue Media Group
MiBiz
Detroit Free Press
The Right Place Program
Spark Ann Arbor
Kalamazoo Gazette

I don't know all the Detroit area media outlets, so there's probably a lot I'm missing.

If you want actual articles, I'm afraid I can't possibly research and post the 1000's of articles just over the past year. There are entire news divisions/outlets devoted to business news.

And as someone else mentioned, it's at least nice to know Michigan has a balanced budget, unlike the Feds and several other states.


OK, just to not leave you hanging, here's just a sampling from recent news (past couple of months):

Biotech firm to add 500 jobs in Grand Rapids - Grand Rapids News - The Grand Rapids Press Online - Michigan Newspaper - MLive.com
WWJ Newsradio 950 - Accretive Health To Add Jobs In Detroit Too
Perrigo plans expansion, including 400 new jobs - Muskegon Chronicle - MLive.com
Planned jobs at MPI Research spurs building boom in Mattawan - The Kalamazoo Gazette Online - Michigan Newspaper - MLive.com
Grand Rapids – Rapid Growth - Right Place helps bring 941 jobs, $37.3M in expansions to West Michigan
Edward Jones plans to grow Grand Rapids presence -
High fuel costs good for aerospace suppliers -
Priceline to open Wyoming call center - Latest News - The Grand Rapids Press - MLive.com
wzzm13.com | Grand Rapids, MI | 1,000 new jobs could come to Kentwood
(from what I hear, this is a 95% done deal)
Grand Rapids – Rapid Growth - Perrigo buys Holland’s JB Labs in $44M expansion, hopes to add 400 local jobs
Blodgett Hospital groundbreaking celebrates community hospital, high-tech jobs - Grand Rapids, Michigan Business News - The Grand Rapids Press – MLive.com

Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't say there's a boom of any sort, as there are still manufacturing jobs related to automotive parts manufacturing being lost in West Michigan, but there are a lot of out-of-state companies checking out West Michigan all the time. We also should get news in the next few weeks about another large call center opening in the Grand Rapids metro area and a MASSIVE solar plant opening up, both from companies outside of Michigan. Priceline is also considering moving their New York operations to Grand Rapids (in addition to their new big call center they just opened). I'm sure there are just as many expansions in the Detroit area (Ann Arbor probably the most). It's just hard to hear about them over all the crap being spewed by the MSM.

[Bydand]

Originally Posted by One Thousand

State references. (I hope you don't trust the media!)

I would expect there's a record of businesses closing down vs. opening.

You post the ones that show the ones mentioned and stated are wrong or not happening. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Yeah the media is just out to pull the wool over the public's eyes and nobody can tell if what they are reporting is truth or not. You are just negative about the state and have bitter feelings, either that or you made a mistake following a woman out of state and now wish you were back, so you are trying to convince yourself the place sucks. For somebody who doesn't give a damn about MI, you sure spend a lot of time on the forum talking about it.

You demand references, and when somebody gives you a bunch, your response is basically "not those, other ones." Then try to discount every source that is available just so your point can hold water. Childish behavior. You maintain the entire state sucks and there are no jobs. You demand references when somebody says otherwise, so lets see some non media references that prove your stance. That is the same guidelines you expect others to follow, so seeing how life is a two way street, you provide the items to maintain your stand please. We don't have to prove a thing here, you do; You are the one making the claims so let's see your proof. Put up or shut up as the old saying goes.

[One Thousand]

Originally Posted by Bydand

You post the ones that show the ones mentioned and stated are wrong or not happening. Go ahead, I'll wait.

I thought you had me on ignore? I understand.. I enjoy me too.

I'm not making any claims to support. I'm just asking if there's any evidence that business is continuing at the same rate now that the tax increases have taken effect.

Yeah the media is just out to pull the wool over the public's eyes and nobody can tell if what they are reporting is truth or not.

The media is a prostitute.

You are just negative about the state and have bitter feelings, either that or you made a mistake following a woman out of state and now wish you were back, so you are trying to convince yourself the place sucks. For somebody who doesn't give a damn about MI, you sure spend a lot of time on the forum talking about it.

Don't get personal, bueno?

You demand references, and when somebody gives you a bunch, your response is basically "not those, other ones." Then try to discount every source that is available just so your point can hold water.

I never made a point. I'm just checking to see if there's anything reputable that contradicts Morris' claim. Why cry?

We don't have to prove a thing here...

I agree. So stop crying. I'm interested if anyone has a (reputable) reference to contradict Morris' conclusion. If you don't have it, get out of this thread.

[djmilf]

Originally Posted by One Thousand

State references. (I hope you don't trust the media!).

BWAHAHAHAHA!

This from someone who dragged us all into this because of a blog entry authored by Dick Morris!

Don't trust 15 different media sources! Trust only in Dick Morris!

And he calls "the media" the prostitute!

And..and...he seeks "anything reputable that contradicts Morris' claim"...when if it did contradict Morris' claim, then by definition it wouldn't be reputable!

Thank you! That's the biggest laugh I've had all day! And I've been following John McCain's blunders today!

But really, seriously now, I'm feeling guilty, laughing at One Thousand, knowing of his "special" situation.

[One Thousand]

I don't know why you whack-jobs are getting so personal. All I'm asking is if there are any references to contradict Morris' opinion.

Please cite one if it's available.

[Bydand]

Originally Posted by One Thousand

I'm not making any claims to support. I'm just asking if there's any evidence that business is continuing at the same rate now that the tax increases have taken effect.

Ah, but you are demanding support for others claims as well when they are not claiming support either. Come on, either continue to troll, or produce.

Don't get personal, bueno?

Not getting personal at all, just rehashing what you yourself have said about why you left the state. I see it is another item for the list of what you can do, but others better not bring it back to you.

I never made a point. I'm just checking to see if there's anything reputable that contradicts Morris' claim. Why cry?

I'm not the one with my knickers in knots because other people have brought forth proof that does contradict your almighty Morris. Just because you think the sources are not valid doesn't mean they are in fact not valid.

I agree. So stop crying. I'm interested if anyone has a (reputable) reference to contradict Morris' conclusion. If you don't have it, get out of this thread.

Who's crying? I don't see teardrops on my keyboard. You are the one who cannot and will not bring forth proof to maintain your stand. You therefor are being a Troll. Stirring the pot with nothing to add to the debate or nothing to maintain your position other than whining about others posts.

And yes I did put you on ignore, but damn it all, you are just so easy and fun to get all riled up. A few comments and you go right off the deep end with lame insults and innuendo. Makes me laugh and gives me a smile. Usually I have to watch a stand-up comic to get this much humor in an evening. And it's free and interactive, BONUS!!