[Tex?Il?]

Originally Posted by adirondackguy123

I'm pretty sure that places like the michigan u.p. are not going to change much if at all, many factors keep only a low pop there and they are
1. jobs
2.climate
3.desolate

And I know people get mad when others talk about weather comparing hot to cold but for me neither are comfortable but I'd rather sweat than freeze.

I'm looking at your username, and wondering. If you don't like cold, remote places, do you like the Andirondacks? The one time I was through there a long time ago, it seemed at least as remote as northern Michigan. And I believe the highest parts of the Adirondacks are maybe even a bit colder.

[bluebird39]

California is a HUGE state. I used to live in Southern Oregon, and I'd say that's 2 very different places. California, just about anywhere, is going to be much more expensive than Northern Michigan if you're looking to buy a house.

Hands down though, I think CA is more beautiful, and jobs up here in N MI are hard to find. It depends on if you're a mountains, dry climate type or a lakes, moisture, temperate weather type.

Another big difference is the wildfire season in CA. Many rural properties there are hard to insure or expensive to insure vs N Michigan. Well water in rural places is very tricky in CA too.

Good luck.