[Driller1]

Originally Posted by cliffie

hell no man, if i stumble across a good speller he's all mine!

lol lol lol

[Bhaalspawn]

Originally Posted by Ivorytickler

Healthcare is the only one I know of that's growing. I wish I'd gotten a nursing degree instead of a teaching degree.

But, sadly, even healthcare will cut back if this economy doesn't turn around soon.

To hear the media tell it, the health care field exists in a vacuum, completely separate from the rest of the economy. What people don't realize is that it will eventually affect the health care field since doctors' and nurses' salaries have to come from someplace and if all of the patients are on Medicaid or Medicare it's a bad omen.

Note that recent Detroit News/Free Press articles have reported that some of the large hospital chains in the Detroit area are instituting hiring freezes and/or even considering having to cut back on employees. It didn't help that many of them took a beating in the stock market.

Regarding what colleges have to say about job prospects for graduates of their program; it should be regarded with the same credibility you might give an auto-dealership. They are all for-profit entities even if they state owned public universities. They are for profit in the sense that they function like businesses and have vested interests that benefit from selling education, which means that the colleges' interests may not be consistent (and in many cases may be contrary) to the best interests of students.

[Cliffie]

Originally Posted by Bhaalspawn

To hear the media tell it, the health care field exists in a vacuum, completely separate from the rest of the economy. What people don't realize is that it will eventually affect the health care field since doctors' and nurses' salaries have to come from someplace and if all of the patients are on Medicaid or Medicare it's a bad omen.

Last I checked, there were 47 million uninsured people in the US. That leaves 453 million WITH coverage. Not that many have Medicaid or Medicare, especially since the first of the Baby Boomers have not yet retired.

It's not the nurses who have to give -- it's the doctors. Our ridiculous fee-for-service system has simply got to go. I read in the November Reader's Digest that if they stopped doing only half of their unnecessary procedures (insert cash-register sound effect here) that it would effectively wipe out the entire cash shortage in the healthcare system.

[Bhaalspawn]

[quote=Cliffie;6878124]Last I checked, there were 47 million uninsured people in the US. That leaves 453 million WITH coverage. Not that many have Medicaid or Medicare, especially since the first of the Baby Boomers have not yet retired.[/q]

Not to nitpick, but since the nation's population is now about 307 million or so, it's impossible for us to have 453 million people with coverate. Maybe 253 million.

It's not the nurses who have to give -- it's the doctors. Our ridiculous fee-for-service system has simply got to go. I read in the November Reader's Digest that if they stopped doing only half of their unnecessary procedures (insert cash-register sound effect here) that it would effectively wipe out the entire cash shortage in the healthcare system.

I'm not sure it's the doctors as much as it is the massive for-profit insurance companies and hospital executives that need to "give". I suspect that a very large percentage of our health expenditures go to fund people who have nothing to do with the actual provision of medical care--the insurance companies, their executives, their shareholders, mounds of red tape, health insurance agents and company benefits plan managers, etc.

[Coldjensens]

Bankruptcy attorney.
Paralegal.
Snow removal.
many healthcare positions, especially on the west side of the state.
College professor.
Fast food worker. Since people no longer pay for higher end food, fast food seems to be doing well.
Doctor.
Financial advisor (what to do with all that money from a big three buyout package?)
Pizza parlor owner (or worker).
The people who look after foreclosed homes are probably doing well.
Recreation seems to be doing ok, especially fishing and hunting related work. THe numbers are down, but it is still a strong area.

Movies.

Anything in alternative energy.

[malamute]

Originally Posted by Bhaalspawn

To hear the media tell it, the health care field exists in a vacuum, completely separate from the rest of the economy. What people don't realize is that it will eventually affect the health care field since doctors' and nurses' salaries have to come from someplace and if all of the patients are on Medicaid or Medicare it's a bad omen.

Note that recent Detroit News/Free Press articles have reported that some of the large hospital chains in the Detroit area are instituting hiring freezes and/or even considering having to cut back on employees. It didn't help that many of them took a beating in the stock market.

Regarding what colleges have to say about job prospects for graduates of their program; it should be regarded with the same credibility you might give an auto-dealership. They are all for-profit entities even if they state owned public universities. They are for profit in the sense that they function like businesses and have vested interests that benefit from selling education, which means that the colleges' interests may not be consistent (and in many cases may be contrary) to the best interests of students.

I just read an article like that today, the writer was raving on about how health care jobs are immune to recessions and how with an aging population, the health care industry will stay booming.

The writer was completely oblivious to the fact that a lot of health care involves "elective" or "semi-elective" procedures that if insurance doesn't pay or the individual has no insurance, they will not be performed.

It's assumed that if people lose insurance and need medical care, Medicaid will kick in -- but even Medicaid could face cut backs if times get hard enough. The government can keep borrowing money for multi-billion bailouts for only so long, and someday it's going to be time to pay the piper.

[flyingwriter]

Originally Posted by Coldjensens

Snow removal.

At least this will never go away.

[michmoldman]

Burger joint. All burgers all the time.

[Jasmin71]

Senior Care,
Burger Joint are NOT always hiring,,,, I been to the ones in Clare and both told me sorry we are not hiring !

[Cliffie]

Originally Posted by kazoopilot

At least this will never go away.

Don't forget global warming, people. This could soon be a subtropical zone, in which case you can enter the exciting field of shovelling away the monkey droppings instead of snow.