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Old 01-19-2009, 08:19 AM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Yes, there is a way but, it will not happen. The EPA needs to back off so our heavy industry CAN operate here.
Come on now....that is a broad and loaded statement......based on false talking points.LOL..... We CAN have both , a clean healthy environment, and , a cost productive industry. Example , just look at what electric smelting has done for the steel industry. Its all about modernizing our infrastructure.
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Old 01-19-2009, 08:40 AM
 
Location: In my house
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Come on now....that is a broad and loaded statement......based on false talking points.LOL..... We CAN have both , a clean healthy environment, and , a cost productive industry. Example , just look at what electric smelting has done for the steel industry. Its all about modernizing our infrastructure.
You would think that
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:09 AM
 
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Come on now....that is a broad and loaded statement......based on false talking points.LOL..... We CAN have both , a clean healthy environment, and , a cost productive industry. Example , just look at what electric smelting has done for the steel industry. Its all about modernizing our infrastructure.
Do you mean the government should go into business?? Who is "we"???
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:57 AM
 
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Like I said in another post.... eventually our children will be picking peaches... they haven't figured out how to outsource harvesting fresh produce grown in our country yet.
No - but Monsanto might invent a peach with a 50-year shelf life. Most likely, it would be immune from digestion too!
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:10 AM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Do you mean the government should go into business?? Who is "we"???
WE , is us , we are the Government , in this Republic. WE elect our people to represent us. In a true democracy ( which we are not ) , the middle man would be eliminated.
Our Government is the largest employer , the largest consumer , spender , defender , and all around provider , cause , our Government is US. We are the enemy , take a look in the mirror.
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:15 AM
 
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No - but Monsanto might invent a peach with a 50-year shelf life. Most likely, it would be immune from digestion too!
And then, China would copy it and sell it for less.

Fake Ferraris flowing out of China? - Autoblog
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:27 AM
 
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WE , is us , we are the Government , in this Republic. WE elect our people to represent us. In a true democracy ( which we are not ) , the middle man would be eliminated.
Our Government is the largest employer , the largest consumer , spender , defender , and all around provider , cause , our Government is US. We are the enemy , take a look in the mirror.
Do I understand you want to eliminate private industry???
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:42 AM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Do I understand you want to eliminate private industry???
Where would you get that idea ? You can't have it all. If you could ( no elected Government ) , than we would not be a democratic republic. We would be a Fascist state , much like Nazi Germany was, when all private industry was controlled by a very few " select" peoples. Socialism is not a bad word , just like too much of anything , is not good . We need a balance , putting , the people first , not the other way around.
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:46 AM
 
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In an economy, what are the four/five uses of persons?

1) Invent things. (Inventor) - so that Manufacturers can make things.

2) Make things. (Manufacturer) - For the benefit of persons 2-4.

3) Consume things (Consumer) - so that Manufacturers will make things.

4) Destroy things (Military) - so that Manufacturers will make things.

Am I right? Wonder what Ludwig Von Mises would have to say.

5) Copy things. (Sometimes an Infringer) - See 2 above.

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Old 01-19-2009, 10:51 AM
 
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Where would you get that idea ? You can't have it all. If you could ( no elected Government ) , than we would not be a democratic republic. We would be a Fascist state , much like Nazi Germany was, when all private industry was controlled by a very few " select" peoples. Socialism is not a bad word , just like too much of anything , is not good . We need a balance , putting , the people first , not the other way around.
Well now, that's a pretty anthopocentric statement!

http://blog.mises.org/archives/00924...comment-493337

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