[Bydand]

Originally Posted by scolls

I tend to agree most of Michigan is racist. I moved back to Harper Woods and when I told a former friend of mine who lives in Sterling Heights this, the first thing he said was, I hear there are a lot of blacks now in Harper Woods. Harper Woods used to be a mostly white city. Now, i would say it about 60/40. Sterling Heights popped up in the 70's after the Detroit riots as a destination for whites fleeing Detroit. My friend said why do I want to live south of 8 Mile, and I said you don't have to come here, and well, he hasn't. I have only been here 3 weeks and am already making good friends. I also have a college degree. Even if this was the height of the auto industry and I could walk onto a big 3 plant, I wouldn't do it. No way I can handle working in a factory for 30 years.

So your one friend in Sterling Heights speaks for the entire State? Wow, how did he land that job and what does it pay? Must be pretty good money in being the spokesman for 10 million people and representing all their values and thoughts.

[scolls]

Originally Posted by Bydand

So your one friend in Sterling Heights speaks for the entire State? Wow, how did he land that job and what does it pay? Must be pretty good money in being the spokesman for 10 million people and representing all their values and thoughts.

That was one example. You cannot deny the fact that Metro Detroit is racially segregated. Why does Detroit, 80% black, border cities like Warren, 90% white? How many cities in the metro area have mixed populations? Do you even know the metro area?

[AncientCoins]

Michigan ranks 4th for hate crimes.

Michigan is the most segregated state in the union.

[Bydand]

Originally Posted by scolls

That was one example. You cannot deny the fact that Metro Detroit is racially segregated. Why does Detroit, 80% black, border cities like Warren, 90% white? How many cities in the metro area have mixed populations? Do you even know the metro area?

I went to college in Detroit, I know the metro area. I worked in that area for years so I bet I could give you an education on both the good side AND the bad side of the Detroit area. Segregated areas are not necessarily racist areas though.

[alliteration]

Originally Posted by Bydand

I went to college in Detroit, I know the metro area. I worked in that area for years so I bet I could give you an education on both the good side AND the bad side of the Detroit area. Segregated areas are not necessarily racist areas though.

Yet in Detroits case, its pretty safe to say that its almost completely based upon racism. The reason Dearborn still has a very low population of African-Americans is because it was pretty much a sundown town and it had one of the most racist mayors of any city in this entire nation, who remained in that position for years. For decades he spoke out about how he would never let any African-Americans live in Dearborn. He also has a statue downtown as well, if that gives you any indication of how far Dearborn has not progressed. Grosse Pointe and other areas are almost exactly the same as well. In some places you might be able to argue that segregation and racism do not go hand in hand, but not in Detroit, where its almost entirely the sole reason that the city and suburbs are complete opposites.

[Crustedfilth]

I'd agree that Detroit, Pontiac, and Mt. Clemens are segregated. You have white neighborhoods, black neighborhoods, and hispanic neighborhoods. Theres nothing racist about a sense of community.

there are also cities in metro Detroit that are diverse. Rochester Hills, Troy, Auburn Hills, Sterling Heights etc.

Segregation happens at the free will of the individual. Most people want to be surrounded by their own race. I don't care what color you are.

[Bydand]

Originally Posted by Crustedfilth

I'd agree that Detroit, Pontiac, and Mt. Clemens are segregated. You have white neighborhoods, black neighborhoods, and hispanic neighborhoods. Theres nothing racist about a sense of community.

there are also cities in metro Detroit that are diverse. Rochester Hills, Troy, Auburn Hills, Sterling Heights etc.

Segregation happens at the free will of the individual. Most people want to be surrounded by their own race. I don't care what color you are.

rep points to you for recognizing this fact. (As soon as I give more away to others, it won't let me rep you right now)

[scolls]

Originally Posted by Crustedfilth

I'd agree that Detroit, Pontiac, and Mt. Clemens are segregated. You have white neighborhoods, black neighborhoods, and hispanic neighborhoods. Theres nothing racist about a sense of community.

there are also cities in metro Detroit that are diverse. Rochester Hills, Troy, Auburn Hills, Sterling Heights etc.

Segregation happens at the free will of the individual. Most people want to be surrounded by their own race. I don't care what color you are.

How is Rochester Hills, Troy and Sterling Heights diverse when they are each 90% white?
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[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by Crustedfilth

I'd agree that Detroit, Pontiac, and Mt. Clemens are segregated. You have white neighborhoods, black neighborhoods, and hispanic neighborhoods. Theres nothing racist about a sense of community.

there are also cities in metro Detroit that are diverse. Rochester Hills, Troy, Auburn Hills, Sterling Heights etc.

Segregation happens at the free will of the individual. Most people want to be surrounded by their own race. I don't care what color you are.

Wanting to be around people who look like you is one thing. The use of sundown laws and excluding people based on race doesn't sound morally right. It's not legal anymore. If a black person wants to living in a predominantly white nplace, that should be his/her choice. If a white person wants to live in a predominantly black place or a majority-minority place, that should be his/her choice. It should never be "this is your skin color or ethnicity,therefore, you must live here and no where else".

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte

Wanting to be around people who look like you is one thing. The use of sundown laws and excluding people based on race doesn't sound morally right. It's not legal anymore. If a black person wants to living in a predominantly white nplace, that should be his/her choice. If a white person wants to live in a predominantly black place or a majority-minority place, that should be his/her choice. It should never be "this is your skin color or ethnicity,therefore, you must live here and no where else".

Also, I've heard that people say being around people like them, but what exactly doea that mean? People that want good schools? That like communities with a good youth sports program? That have a convenient and walkable community?

Sometimes culturally, it's about opportunity to be in reach of something similar to you as well. So, you might not have to live in say a Black neighborhood, but the proximity and opportunity to be there could be enough. Same goes for other individuals, regardless of group affiliation.