[krock1dk]

Originally Posted by fallingwater

Hubby and I ended up in Indiana. It was never on my radar.
This isnt my dream place and I still have a hard time adjusting to how backwards Indiana can be on things. .

That was a very very hasty generalization. How is Indiana anymore backwards than anywhere else? Last time I checked, Indiana had electricity, transportation networks, hospitals, tv, radio, cities, industry, etc. And Indianapolis is a nice and GROWING large city. So what makes it so backwards, compared to MI?? In fact, I think Michigan is pretty backwards. Answer please.......

[MI-IRISH]

Originally Posted by krock1dk

That was a very very hasty generalization. How is Indiana anymore backwards than anywhere else? Last time I checked, Indiana had electricity, transportation networks, hospitals, tv, radio, cities, industry, etc. And Indianapolis is a nice and GROWING large city. So what makes it so backwards, compared to MI?? In fact, I think Michigan is pretty backwards. Answer please.......

think they had a football team win a superbowl too if i'm not mistaken

[irishlover]

Originally Posted by michigandersrforever

Other than that the job market hasnt crashed in the south but with alternative energy coming the oil companies are going to be hurting especially with the new climate laws but do what you will.

Good luck with that, my friend! It's amazing that people think a "switch" can be turned on and we suddenly won't need any oil and gas because some politician said so. No matter what the figure heads in Washington say or do oil and natural gas are going to be with us for our lifetime. What does that mean? It means that oil/gas rich states such as Texas, Oklahoma and a sprinkling of others will have more and more good paying jobs and relatively (in comparison to the rest of the country) healthy economies for years and years to come. There's a reason why Houston is a metro area of nearly 6 million people now with expectations of surpassing Chicago in population by 2020.

No, Houston (and a good portion of Texas/Oklahoma) isn't usually on the top of people's lists for a place to move to but, with the current state of the country/world, I'll take a place that has well paying, relatively stable jobs in a place that's not bitterly cold in the winter and where, in most parts of town, you can safely and affordably raise a family.

Apache, ConocoPhillips, El Paso, Anadarko, Baker Hughes, Marathon are all Houston-based fortune 500 energy companies (there are at least 10 others too) that are here to stay (and all have positions open currently).

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Originally Posted by krock1dk

That was a very very hasty generalization. How is Indiana anymore backwards than anywhere else? Last time I checked, Indiana had electricity, transportation networks, hospitals, tv, radio, cities, industry, etc. And Indianapolis is a nice and GROWING large city. So what makes it so backwards, compared to MI?? In fact, I think Michigan is pretty backwards. Answer please.......

I guess your not the only one. I've been arguing with this guy for the last 2 days on another section of CD and I get a private message today and the guy tells me I live in a small backwater MI town in MI....... his exact words. The absurdity of the statement overwhelmed me, like it's possible to live in a MI town in Nebraska?

[lucknow]

Originally Posted by MIganderwander

I love Michigan, been here all of my 37yrs, but we are moving to Oregon in August. Our family needs a change and my husband needs a job, even with a Bachelor's degree. I will miss Lake Michigan terribly.

But I think you will love Oregon. Portland is just about my fav city in the world. It's such a beautiful state.

[lucknow]

Originally Posted by spnage

I live in Royal Oak mi and have lived in Michigan all of my life. I think we should all stop paying state and federal taxes. We as tax payers are paying the state and local governments to do a job that they are frankly not doing. Im paying you taxes to bail out these millionares on wall street that got us into this mess. What about us the backbone of this country the hard working middle and lower class. These people make millions and were worried about there jobs but not the people who live week to week. Its total bull ****t!!! I am a construction worker and unless I am a mexican or willing to work for min wage I cant get work. There arnt enough jobs to go around for the people who are already here but lets keep giving out visas and not getting rid of the illegals. But hey heres some more tax money. Is anybody else wondering what the hell where doing as a country. If you want a job dont move out of state move out of country. O but the europeans are smart they wont let you just move over there and take their jobs.

Just move across the river or the lake to Canada. My son in law is a construction worker in Sault Ste Marie On and he makes great money. I think it's $27 per hour. You don't need to go to Europe. Plus we speak English here.

[mkfarnam]

Originally Posted by irishlover

Good luck with that, my friend! It's amazing that people think a "switch" can be turned on and we suddenly won't need any oil and gas because some politician said so. No matter what the figure heads in Washington say or do oil and natural gas are going to be with us for our lifetime. What does that mean? It means that oil/gas rich states such as Texas, Oklahoma and a sprinkling of others will have more and more good paying jobs and relatively (in comparison to the rest of the country) healthy economies for years and years to come. There's a reason why Houston is a metro area of nearly 6 million people now with expectations of surpassing Chicago in population by 2020.

No, Houston (and a good portion of Texas/Oklahoma) isn't usually on the top of people's lists for a place to move to but, with the current state of the country/world, I'll take a place that has well paying, relatively stable jobs in a place that's not bitterly cold in the winter and where, in most parts of town, you can safely and affordably raise a family.

Apache, ConocoPhillips, El Paso, Anadarko, Baker Hughes, Marathon are all Houston-based fortune 500 energy companies (there are at least 10 others too) that are here to stay (and all have positions open currently).

Haliburton has moved some of their equipment plants from here in Duncan, Oklahoma. down to Houston, Tx.

[ForeclosureCountry]

Originally Posted by MoheJohe

I think people are "going" where ever they can get a job. We are headed to Indiana one more engineering transplant leaving MI. My biggest regret is the house. We will never make what we owe on it. Homes in our suburb are going for 40k a huge drop from the 100 - 200k of 4 years ago. We are taking a huge hit, but after a year of unemployment we do not see any other alternative, farewell MI, hello IN!

I am curious,which suburb you are speaking of?

[ForeclosureCountry]

Michigan became too backwards and too crazy since when big business left and small businesses are everywhere closing shop.Dare say i am being negative....

[LeavingDetroit]

I'm gearing up for move to the San Fransisco Bay Area. It is not cheap but the opportunities job and business-wise plus the weather, diversity and vibrancy of a world-class city will hopefully mean it's the right move for our family.