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Old 06-14-2009, 03:25 AM
 
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Default MI: Wow the state looks like its going backwards!

Once the automotive leader, it looks like MI is slowly reverting back to a forest. Reminds me of Will Smith's movie where NYC was slowly turning back to grass and there are lions and deer running around downtown.



US cities may have to be bulldozed in order to survive - Telegraph


Rural Mich. counties turn failing roads to gravel | roads, mich, counties - Top Stories - WWMT NEWSCHANNEL 3
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:53 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Not as dreary as a couple of articles will have you believe. When was the last time you were here?

Economically depressed? Yes.
Reverting back to Forest? No
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Old 06-14-2009, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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Once the automotive leader, it looks like MI is slowly reverting back to a forest. Reminds me of Will Smith's movie where NYC was slowly turning back to grass and there are lions and deer running around downtown.



US cities may have to be bulldozed in order to survive - Telegraph


Rural Mich. counties turn failing roads to gravel | roads, mich, counties - Top Stories - WWMT NEWSCHANNEL 3
I actually like the idea of turning rural primary roads back to gravel. We keep stretching our infrastructure out in Michigan like a rubber band, and we wonder then why it finally snapped.
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Old 06-14-2009, 07:40 AM
 
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If it's a choice of bringing in half the world and paying them to reproduce just for the sake of growth and seeing miles and miles of crowded subdivisions with more going up and some wild natural spaces, I'll go with the wild natural spaces.

Who wants to live where you have to make a reservation 3-6 months in advance to get a camping site.
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Old 06-14-2009, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Northwest Lower Michigan
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There has been talk of turning ours to gravel. Only thing is some areas of the state have good paved roads, and good gravel roads that are better than our paved roads. The paved roads we have now are horrid, and the gravel roads are worse yet. My cars are always getting destroyed regardless from our roads, so I would rather have a paved road to at least keep it clean so it is easier to work on.

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Who wants to live where you have to make a reservation 3-6 months in advance to get a camping site.
That is about the only positive to soaring gas prices. It used to be like you say when I was younger, and since then I never bothered trying to camp for years. Now the campgrounds are pretty dead and the last few years I have been able to take the family camping locally anytime I happen to be able to get time off and the weather is decent. It is nice and peaceful because we pretty much have the campground to ourselves. Now I haven't checked this year yet since gas went down, but is going up fast and headed where it was before. I am hoping to go next weekend.
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Old 06-14-2009, 11:15 AM
 
Location: lifelong Detroiter transplanted to Milwaukee
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If it's a choice of bringing in half the world and paying them to reproduce just for the sake of growth and seeing miles and miles of crowded subdivisions with more going up and some wild natural spaces, I'll go with the wild natural spaces.
I agree. I think Flint's plan is a positive step. I've often thought that it's unfortunate that most American cities are so sprawled out that it is impossible to function without a car. Having a condensed urban area with everything you need close by makes a lot of sense nowadays with the price of gas.
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Highland CA
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Not as dreary as a couple of articles will have you believe. When was the last time you were here?

Economically depressed? Yes.
Reverting back to Forest? No
Isn't the former Buick Town pretty much headed that way anyway?

I'd like to see Flint re-establish itself from the city center out. When I was a kid my mother didn't drive, but we could easily walk to everything that we needed when my dad was at work. Supermarket, two blocks. Barbershop, one block. Pharmacy, 4-5 blocks. Sears, 5-6 blocks. Downtown, about the same. Unfortunately, it would take a liberal application of 'dozers to my old neighborhood today just to start.

The revitalization of downtown Flint, and the expansion of the U-M campus is a positive start.
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Highland CA
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Did anyone else catch this part of the article?

"The city is buying up houses in more affluent areas to offer people in neighbourhoods it wants to demolish. Nobody will be forced to move, said Mr Kildee."

So, he wants to turn what few good parts of Flint remain into yet another bad part of the city by moving low-lifes in? And what are they supposed to rent/buy these nicer homes with? Maybe I've missed something.
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Old 06-15-2009, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Mid-Town
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Once the automotive leader, it looks like MI is slowly reverting back to a forest. Reminds me of Will Smith's movie where NYC was slowly turning back to grass and there are lions and deer running around downtown.

Seriously, it will be a few years before the trees are of any real size.

But all forests have to start with the undergrowth and Detgroit has a great start on that...
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:33 AM
 
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Once the automotive leader, it looks like MI is slowly reverting back to a forest. Reminds me of Will Smith's movie where NYC was slowly turning back to grass and there are lions and deer running around downtown.



US cities may have to be bulldozed in order to survive - Telegraph


Rural Mich. counties turn failing roads to gravel | roads, mich, counties - Top Stories - WWMT NEWSCHANNEL 3
this is a big country.....a big state too. so bulldoze a few cities....sounds good. oh no! gravel roads! (stomping feet) waaaaaaaah!
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