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Old 08-06-2009, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Western Hoosierland
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From what I have read Superior is the name of a longstanding "51st State" proposal involving the secession of the U.P. of Michigan from the rest of the state of Michigan, due to cultural differences, as well as the feeling that the capital in Lansing doesn't care about the problems of the Upper Peninsula.



Named for Lake Superior, the idea has gotten serious attention at times, though it is quite unlikely to ever come to fruition due to the large amount of funding that the area receives from the lower part of the state, and the strong connections that were cemented by the completion of the Mackinac Bridge, which gave the peninsula a direct highway connection to the rest of the state.


During the 1970's and 1980's several politicians tired to formally attempted this legislation in the 1970s, with no success as a state, it would have the smallest population. It's 330,000 some residents would represent only 60% of the population of Wyoming, and less than 50% of the population of Alaska. Superior would rank 40th in land area, larger than the State of Maryland.


Proposing a capital has been in debate although Marquette (the Upper Peninsula's largest city) is a common choice, both for its centralized location and for its economic activity.


Efforts to secede and form a new state date back to around 1859, when a convention was held in Ontonagon for the purpose of forming a new state combining the upper peninsula of Michigan, northern parts of Wisconsin, and parts of Northeastern Minnesota. The new state was to be called either Superior or Ontonagon. The New York Times released a statement in regards to the issue

"Unless Congress should interpose objections, which cannot reasonably be apprehended, we see no cause why the new "State of Ontonagon" should not speedily take her place as an independent member of the union."

In the late 1890's another proposal for a State of Superior included the Upper Peninsula (U.P.) and portions of Northern Wisconsin. During the 1960s, there was talk of the U.P. seceding to become part of Wisconsin or it becoming it's own state. Supposedly In preparation for this move, the U.P. received, its own area code of 906. No area code in the U.S. is allowed to cross state lines


In the early 1960's, an Upper Peninsula Independence Association was founded to advocate for the formation for the State of Superior. A secession bill was submitted to the Michigan Legislature and around 20,000 petition signatures were collected about around 36,000 short of the number needed for a ballot referendum on separation.



If The State of Superior came into the union as it's own it would look similar to this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Su...e-Expanded.png




Okay so to the question.

Do the people of the Upper Peninsula still desire to be their own state?
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Old 08-06-2009, 01:54 PM
 
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Yep. Just like the Conch Republic in the FL Keys. It sells T-Shirts and that's about it.
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Western Hoosierland
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I will have to look up the Conch Republic..Never heard of that one.
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:04 PM
 
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michigan should just get rid of detroit, keep the rest.....
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:22 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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michigan should just get rid of detroit, keep the rest.....
Can't do that though, then we lose the Tigers, Pistons, Redwings, & the Shock (Lions would be no real loss - they can hit the road.)
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:08 PM
 
Location: At the end of the road, where the trail begins.
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Can't do that though, then we lose the Tigers, Pistons, Redwings, & the Shock (Lions would be no real loss - they can hit the road.)
We'll move the Redwings up here to Marquette and ditch the rest of the teams
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:09 PM
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Location: Phoenix,AZ
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So, as a born & raised "Yooper", would I have to change my birth certificate?

Bydand, about half of the Yoopers are Packer fans anyway.....
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Old 08-06-2009, 10:20 PM
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We'll move the Redwings up here to Marquette and ditch the rest of the teams
Didya know that the "Soo" was the original "Hockeytown"?

'tis true....


I don't think we could have a baseball team unless it was indoors. April is more like the end of winter than the beginning of spring....The Superior Loggers? I dunno.

Football would work...have ya seen all of the folks come out for the snowmobile races, ice fishing, etc.?

The Superior Finlanders? Hey, we already have the Vikings, Yankees, Redskins, etc.

Basketball.

The Superior Lakers. Make that team in CA change their name. Remember that great University, LSSU.

We'd still be the Red Wings, of course.
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Old 08-07-2009, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Sitting on a bar stool. Guinness in hand.
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Default constitution?

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...nstitution.pdf

Here's a question guys. What would the state of Superior's constitution look like? Actually how would Superior's constitution differ from Michigan's current constitution?
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Old 08-07-2009, 07:12 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Oh no if this goes through I will have to go to another state to do major shopping.

We usually go to Traverse City, because there is nothing here in Manistee.
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