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Old 11-28-2010, 12:44 PM
 
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Same website, slightly different hash of probably the same statistics.

Magnet or Sticky?: A State-by-State Typology | Pew Social & Demographic Trends

This population density map is sort of interesting. I like lower population density and after driving 75 to 23 to 94 to get home for Thanksgiving, geez, I think lower Michigan is starting to have too many people for me.

Some of the low-magnet/low sticky places surprised me...Maine?

As much as people in Michigan have it hard economically, there are places that have it worse and have had for a long time...West Virginia, Maine, others.
Everyone I know in Michigan is currently employed. My farmer nephew had a good year.
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Old 11-28-2010, 02:08 PM
 
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#6 in fact in the % of people born here that stick here ...

Maps: Migration Flows in the United States, Sticky States - Pew Social & Demographic Trends (http://pewsocialtrends.org/maps/migration/stickystate.php - broken link)

Why would this be? In a state which consistently has some of the highest unemployment you would think lots of residents have moved elsewhere to find jobs.

Contrast this to the other statistic - it ranks low (#47) in the % of people who've migrated here from somewhere else. This makes perfect sense - no jobs, no in migration. Same thing happening for many mid western states.

So back to Michigan. Does the state welfare system encourage people to stay? Are so many upside down on their mortgage they can't afford to leave? Are the state's residents less educated, thus less marketable? Is it more a matter or unwillingness or inability? Or can we also say that those who live here & work here are more content to stay?
Why do you assume people don't leave Michigan because of bad circumstances?

Michigan is a great state with great people. Its not overpriced like many areas that "attract" people so even if you don't make a lot you can get by. Plenty of natural beauty and scenery, as well as cheap things to do.

I've lived in Michigan, Tucson and am now in Chicago finishing grad school. Michigan is the winner hands down and I will be back there at the first opportunity.
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Old 11-28-2010, 02:23 PM
 
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I'll get slammed for this...But JMO, Michigan people have an overwhelming entitlement/welfare mentality thanks to generations of growing up union. Most would rather sit in a job that they spend 1/2 the year laid off from, collect gov't assistence, unemployment, etc. to get by the other 1/2 of the year for their entire lives than ever leave the state and make a better life for themselves and children.
What a nice stereotype you've made for over 9 million people.

I wonder how many stereotypes we could make for everyone in GA......
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Old 11-30-2010, 12:39 AM
 
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The reasons related to why natives stay here involve strong family ties which include tight religious backgrounds and conservative mentalities. I would venture to say that the seasonal changes play a part in it as well. I go nuts in climates that rarely see dramatic changes.. I love my home state.
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Old 12-02-2010, 07:35 PM
 
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Michigan has strong family ties. Neighbors have been there for 30 years. Teachers taught your parents and uncles. The businesses are generational family businesses. There is a "feel" of connectedness that I haven't found anywhere else. I know that part of that is because I grew up there and it is my "home."

And the main reason? Vernors!!!
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:26 PM
 
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And the main reason? Vernors!!!


I made some friends Vernors and chocolate milk. They were disgusted until they tried it...
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Old 12-03-2010, 08:54 AM
 
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Why do you assume people don't leave Michigan because of bad circumstances?
No assumptions made. Simply musing.
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Old 12-04-2010, 12:12 AM
 
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#6 in fact in the % of people born here that stick here ...

Maps: Migration Flows in the United States, Sticky States - Pew Social & Demographic Trends (http://pewsocialtrends.org/maps/migration/stickystate.php - broken link)

Why would this be? In a state which consistently has some of the highest unemployment you would think lots of residents have moved elsewhere to find jobs.

Contrast this to the other statistic - it ranks low (#47) in the % of people who've migrated here from somewhere else. This makes perfect sense - no jobs, no in migration. Same thing happening for many mid western states.

So back to Michigan. Does the state welfare system encourage people to stay? Are so many upside down on their mortgage they can't afford to leave? Are the state's residents less educated, thus less marketable? Is it more a matter or unwillingness or inability? Or can we also say that those who live here & work here are more content to stay?
I think your facts are interesting and as a native of Michigan I think it is one of the greatest states though unfortunately the state of Michigan quality of cities are very low and the largest city ( Detroit) is horrifying.
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