moving out of Michigan (Detroit, Flint: crime, unemployed, to buy)
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Tariffs are a good idea to all but the giant corporations that must sell to foreign markets. Prices will go up on goods but the country becomes more independent, more goods will be made in this country, more jobs and at better wages will be available, but exported goods will likely not be competitive in other countries. I think it's a fair trade but if you're in it to maximize profit at the expense of the general populace -- it's not a good deal.
I believe the average consumer has lost more in this "free trade" thing we have now than what was gained. We got lower prices but have permanently lost jobs and have seen real wages go down. We also have a huge trade deficit -- we may be exporting more in some areas but are importing far greater overall. This simply siphons off the wealth of the nation. If the whole "free trade" thing worked in our favor -- we wouldn't have a trade deficit. The "free trade" experiment has failed for all but a few -- it's time to go back to "fair trade" and add tariffs where appropriate and build back a manufacturing base in this country.
Then shut-up and move out instead of sitting online and crying like a baby. You don't have the attitude to help one bit, so you are just dragging it down even further.
Yes, like Bydand says....shut up! LEAVE! Once we are rid of all the people who hate it here, we will have plenty of room for the people who want to live here. If I hated it here as much as some people on this forum, I would spend every waking second trying to get out of here.
Yes, like Bydand says....shut up! LEAVE! Once we are rid of all the people who hate it here, we will have plenty of room for the people who want to live here. If I hated it here as much as some people on this forum, I would spend every waking second trying to get out of here.
I would have already been gone! However, people who complain here will more than likely complain somewhere else.
You and I and some of the others here accept our state for what it is, both the good and the bad, and are happy here. Those who don't and aren't want to drag the rest of us down. It's sad, isn't it, to be so unhappy that you feel the need to vent it at total strangers on the internet?
I would have already been gone! However, people who complain here will more than likely complain somewhere else.
You and I and some of the others here accept our state for what it is, both the good and the bad, and are happy here. Those who don't and aren't want to drag the rest of us down. It's sad, isn't it, to be so unhappy that you feel the need to vent it at total strangers on the internet?
Yes it is sad Canudigit. I can see if you are unemployed and cant find work...then yes, it is tough to be here, but it does no good to put down the state. I think many of these people do have jobs, but just like to add stupid remarks because they do not like it here.
Believe it or not, we actually thought of leaving a few years ago to move to a warmer state, but instead we decided to get an RV and travel around Michigan.... see what we have here. To be honest, I had no idea this state was so beautiful! Now instead of moving south, we are looking to move north. I know its normal for most to complain when its winter, but if you still complain when its beautiful out, and you can get out and take advantage of all the state has to offer...then you need to leave.
While no one can be sure how long the bad news here in Michigan will last, I think most experts would agree that it will be longer than a couple of years.
If you had a solid job and/or couldn't sell the house many would probably suggest staying. But with the house sold and a new job waiting for you, it seems like a better idea to go at this point. And, like others have said in this thread, Nebraska and Iowa both are hidden gems in that most people don't think of them as a relocation destination, but both have low unemployment rates (many places under 5%) and a low cost of living.
If things to recover here in two or three years, you will have a couple of more years of experience in your field (rather than sitting around on unemployment . . . or worse) and would be more qualified if something does open up here.
Yes it is sad Canudigit. I can see if you are unemployed and cant find work...then yes, it is tough to be here, but it does no good to put down the state. I think many of these people do have jobs, but just like to add stupid remarks because they do not like it here.
Believe it or not, we actually thought of leaving a few years ago to move to a warmer state, but instead we decided to get an RV and travel around Michigan.... see what we have here. To be honest, I had no idea this state was so beautiful! Now instead of moving south, we are looking to move north. I know its normal for most to complain when its winter, but if you still complain when its beautiful out, and you can get out and take advantage of all the state has to offer...then you need to leave.
We did leave for a warmer state last year, because we were convinced that our daughter's allergies would be much better there. We came back because Hubby's job there didn't work out, but mainly because we underestimated how much we would miss Michigan and how much we would hate it there. He could have looked for another job there, although their economy and job market are terrible right now too, but honestly, we just wanted to come home and were actually glad that the job there didn't work out. We were hoping and praying that our daughter would feel better here than she did before, because we couldn't stand it there, and she does. The only explanation that we can come up with is that there may have been some mold issues in our previous Michigan house related to the basement flooding a couple of times, and she is highly allergic to molds, but there was no evidence of any mold anywhere, so that is strictly a guess, and probably not a very accurate one. I guess we will never know.
I look back on all of that now, and I see that there was a purpose for the whole thing, and that purpose was that we needed to be shown first hand just what a wonderful state we live in and just how much we love our families, and also that our daughter's allergies would be much better here now, making it possible for her to live here indefinitely. I have no regrets whatsoever, and I know now that not only is the grass NOT greener, sometimes it is virtually non-existent, lol. We will never move away from Michigan again. However, we may consider renting a condo on the beach in SC from Jan.-March when we retire if the winters here get too hard to take. I don't want to move there permanently, though. Michigan is my home.
Last edited by canudigit; 01-04-2010 at 08:27 AM..
We left Michigan in 1998 due to being put out of business by the "Big Box" stores. We had a electronic repair business that was really going down hill. We moved to Northern MN. Bought a home (4 bedroom 2 bath) with 40 acres for $27,000.00 and changed careers to truck driving and opened a new electronic repair business.
My roots are still in MI. I still miss it, but couldn't live there again.
People still have electronic devices repaired? I thought that the cost of parts and labor was a factor in our "throwaway" society.
Exactly how did the Big Box stores put you out of business?
Around here, try to find a tailor or, worse yet, a place that repairs shoes.
Not doubting what you say, just curious.
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