[Michigan Aaron]

Originally Posted by Jim_Kim

The job market is better than here in Michigan. Good luck to all who is staying in Michigan.
God BLess,
Kim and Jim

Some of us don't need luck. I made my bones in the healthcare industry and I can prosper wherever I choose to hang mt hat - and I choose Michigan. I'm sorry that your situation is what it is, but don't knock those of us that have found a way to make it work. Missouri aint a bad place by any means, but as time goes on I promise you you'll be missing many things about home the way I used to when I moved south.

[CaboolBound]

I am not knocking by no means. Didn't mean to offend anyone. I have lived in Michigan all my life but when it comes to making ends meet it is hard if you are on disablity or social security. We would have never been able to buy a place like we have in MO here in Michigan. Property is just cheaper where we are going. We are lucky because we have family and friends that are moving to MO so we will only be out there for a few months alone. We didn't have a problem making ends meet up here when my husband could work and when I was working ( he was a truck driver and I am a nurse ). We were still planning on moving out to the country in a few years but since our car accident we were able to move sooner. I am sure that I will miss certain things but living out in the country and sitting on a deck with a view of rolling hills and beauty will be a nice change. Again, I didn't mean to offend anyone.

Kim

[Cato the Elder]

Good luck with the move, Kim. Change is not necessarily a bad thing. I do not think you're offensive, but I think people are getting tired of too much doom and gloom around here. Yes, the auto industry sucks and it is depressing the MI economy along with it, but it won't go on forever. The landscape and demographic of MI will be different in 5 or 10 years, but it will not be Baghdad as people make it out to be; we are not New Mexico or West Virginia, nor will we ever be in the next several centuries. Again, good luck with the move - happy trails.

[jeffncandace]

I just moved to Michigan last year from California and now live in Royal Oak. My wife and I LOVE this state and are so glad we moved. For us, the positives outway the negatives by alot! Dont believe me? Check out the education stats for California. Second worst in the nation, next to Louisiana.

Better yet, go to Cali and go to an Emergency Room. I'll give you $100.00 if you are there less than 4-6 hours before you see a doctor, unless your dying. Drive the freeways, and see how long it takes you to get from point A to point B. Try to talk to a neighbor and see if they don't look at you funny, as if you have an alterior motive for talking to them. Take a deep breath of the brown air and try not to cough. Now, wanna live there? Really? Let's let you sit down before you look at the cost of renting, or buying...

No thank you. I miss the mountains and the oceans, but I'm fine with the Porkies and the Great Lakes. I'm fine with an area that is SOOOOO much more family orientated. I'm fine with greenery vs. the desert.

I'm sorry some have such a hard time financially. That would embitter anyone. But I love this state and can't wait until it turns back around...
And it will.

[Cato the Elder]

What the previous poster said is absolutely true. We lived in the Bay Area for a year and would never consider moving back unless something drastically changed. All but the elite physicians and lawyers are middle class there when a huge chunk of the population are flush with funny money, stock options or jobs with Pixar, Industrial Light and Magic, etc. Ironcially, the other demographic that can thrive in the Bay Area are the homeless thanks to liberal policies - if you're a googleaire or homeless, NoCal is great. Otherwise, it sucks for the majority, but hey, the views are great. Good houses in the city are still selling in a week with multiple cash offers and no contingencies. Nurses, teachers, firemen, and plumbers have to drive in from over an hour away and the people ***** and moan while at the same time making it financially untenable for these people to live nearby. No thanks - I'll take some snow and sanity, please.

[SALteacher]

No question that Michigan is going through a very tough economic spell. However I remain confident that it will bounce back. We've lived here for almost 14 years and never regretted moving from our hometowns. To us Michigan will always be home, even if we do move to another state. I'm wrapping up the elementary education program at EMU in 2 years and after reading many posts here and hearing from fellow teachers while subbing, it's not promising for anyone going into teaching with plans to stay in MI. I'm hoping in two years things will improve enough here that we can stay. But we're prepare to leave if needed. We own a home and are worried sick what would happen if we were to move and the economy here was still down. We're struggling financially like many others in MI. However, as previous posts have stated, there's nothing like MI when it comes to the seasons, yes even winter . I understand those who need to leave and appreciate and salute those who decide to stick it out. Good luck all.

[lavendersunrise]

Originally Posted by jeffncandace

I just moved to Michigan last year from California and now live in Royal Oak. My wife and I LOVE this state and are so glad we moved. For us, the positives outway the negatives by alot! Dont believe me? Check out the education stats for California. Second worst in the nation, next to Louisiana.

Better yet, go to Cali and go to an Emergency Room. I'll give you $100.00 if you are there less than 4-6 hours before you see a doctor, unless your dying. Drive the freeways, and see how long it takes you to get from point A to point B. Try to talk to a neighbor and see if they don't look at you funny, as if you have an alterior motive for talking to them. Take a deep breath of the brown air and try not to cough. Now, wanna live there? Really? Let's let you sit down before you look at the cost of renting, or buying...

No thank you. I miss the mountains and the oceans, but I'm fine with the Porkies and the Great Lakes. I'm fine with an area that is SOOOOO much more family orientated. I'm fine with greenery vs. the desert.

I'm sorry some have such a hard time financially. That would embitter anyone. But I love this state and can't wait until it turns back around...
And it will.

Everything is very relative. If you go to Detroit, Pontiac, etc you're going to be in the ER a lot longer than Royal Oak/Auburn Hills/etc.

And while I admit that Michigan's education system is one of the best, it's also been that way since statehood in 1837. Michigan had one of the first "current" Public School systems and modeled for other states. However, in recent years, the classes are becoming overcrowded, the textbooks aren't being bought as often, etc. As the tax base is cut from those leaving, the money for schools will as well (we already see this with Jennifer's "ex-promise"). Hopefully, the schools can continue to succeed when they have little money.

I like Royal Oak, it's a great city. I'll miss Michigan, but I need a job, and with state cuts, I'm not going to get one anytime soon (I'm a teacher!)

[jeffncandace]

Originally Posted by lavendersunrise

Everything is very relative. If you go to Detroit, Pontiac, etc you're going to be in the ER a lot longer than Royal Oak/Auburn Hills/etc.

And while I admit that Michigan's education system is one of the best, it's also been that way since statehood in 1837. Michigan had one of the first "current" Public School systems and modeled for other states. However, in recent years, the classes are becoming overcrowded, the textbooks aren't being bought as often, etc. As the tax base is cut from those leaving, the money for schools will as well (we already see this with Jennifer's "ex-promise"). Hopefully, the schools can continue to succeed when they have little money.

I like Royal Oak, it's a great city. I'll miss Michigan, but I need a job, and with state cuts, I'm not going to get one anytime soon (I'm a teacher!)

Nobody's saying Michigan is a utopia, but since most posts on city-data are so negative regarding our state, I felt the need to point out that the grass is always greener...

[kgeorge78]

I live in Michigan and I love it. My business is doing good, family is good, I love my home (Troy).

I hate this message board. Too much complaining. My sister in law moved to arizona - I visited her and hated it. How can it be 80 deg during Christmas!!!!!

Hang in there folks!

[angelina1982]

Originally Posted by lavendersunrise

I know schools waste money. But it isn't the Administration they are cutting. It's the teachers, the supplies, the extra activities, etc. I'm a teacher. Do you think class sizes for 35+ are good for your child and their learning? Lemme tell you, those class sizes aren't good, it becomes crowd control and not teaching.

Schools waste money, but they are going to continue to waste money and cut things they NEED.

i agree i work for the school in ohio and been looking to find abetter education place for my kids and i know how you all feel, it hard for kids in a class room of 35 or more.

the teacher has so much on them and the supplies they have to buy, the teacher need more help bring in more teacher or an aide to help you all out.