[RG&P]

Have you ever been to Cheboygan? or Vanderbuilt? what holes. Cheboygan is a hole of a town, and Vanderbuilt is only a town because the government says so. Two towns I would not buy in if you pait me to live there.

[Michigansnowflake]

Originally Posted by BurtsBees

That made me crack up....

Its funny that some cities will FIGHT the plans of building a walmart in their city.

I dont think its funny. I live in Charlevoix and we fought and kept Wal-mart out of our town. Who needs that big old ugly big box store here? There is one in Peroskey and one in TC. If we want to go to one we can, but we dont, WM sucks.

I think the whole of SE Mi is pretty damn ugly

[Michigansnowflake]

Originally Posted by Coldjensens

Having lived in Orange County for 18 years and still work there about a third of each year, I think it is clear that almost anywhere in Michigan is prettier than almost anywhere in OC. Look out your airplane window when you land sometime. Brown brown brown. There are a few exceptions, but OC is mostly brown grass, brown, sand, brown air, the only green is artifically planted grass and a very few trees sprouting amongst acres and acres of concrete. Rivers have no water in them most of the time, and many of the rivers are now lined with concrete. There are no lakes, only man made ponds, labeled lakes.

I simply cannot call beautiful thousands of walled in subdivisions filled with cookie cutter identical homes built about twenty feet or less apart. Conformity has no beauty to my eye.

The ocean is beautiful but you have to drive to it unless you are very rich and the mountains are beautiful some days in the winter when they are not obscured by smog and haze.

Beach towns are an exception and Silverado Canyon was pretty for part of the year.

Then there is anything near L.A. Blech!


A lot of times, I think that Michiganders fail to appreciate how beautiful it is here. It is hard to find a truly ugly city. Especially if you like trees and water. It is very green. Even the cities have a lot of trees and grass in them. A fresh snowfall is beautiful, spring is incredible as is fall. The only yuck time is usually November. I have to concede, it is pretty ugly almost everywhere in November.

Other than the area that contains zug island, I would be hard pressed to call any Michigan City that I have seen ugly. Lots of parts are bland, but ugly is rare.

Detroit has an awesome skyline (at least until you get close enough to see missing windows).

I have not been to Flint ever that I can recall. It is just a place that you pass on the freeway.
Maybe that is ugly.

Some places like Albion are really run down, but it is still a pretty city with a great deal of potential.


Sorry, I am not sure that there are any ugly cities in Michigan.

I beg to differ. November is stunningly beautiful up here in NW MI. Crisp cold blue skies, a riot of colorful leaves on the ground (with a few still on the trees) the first snows falling. There is never an ugly time in NW MI

[Nickc121]

Originally Posted by swimpolo06

what is the point of focusing on how bad everything is? how does that help anything?

When will people give up on complaining about the complaining? Its just as irritating

[benc]

Originally Posted by Michigansnowflake

I dont think its funny. I live in Charlevoix and we fought and kept Wal-mart out of our town. Who needs that big old ugly big box store here? There is one in Peroskey and one in TC. If we want to go to one we can, but we dont, WM sucks.

I think the whole of SE Mi is pretty damn ugly

Yes and that is why every one drives to petoskey to shop. Char is an upity town that is a tourist only place, with nothing much to do. Walk by the board walk and get killed by fireworks. LOL

[magellan]

Originally Posted by Michigansnowflake

I dont think its funny. I live in Charlevoix and we fought and kept Wal-mart out of our town. Who needs that big old ugly big box store here? There is one in Peroskey and one in TC. If we want to go to one we can, but we dont, WM sucks.

I think the whole of SE Mi is pretty damn ugly

Good for Charlevoix! Wal-Marts are just big dumpy flea markets. You don't need it.

[Michigansnowflake]

If you think Charlevoix is a tourist only town, boy are you mistaken.

It is fabulous to live 10 min from Lake Michigan and the surrounding lakes, to live minutes from ski hills, trails, fishing. boating, hunting, morel hunting. We have fabulous festivals, amazing sunsets, 5 star restaurants.

I get everything I need right in town, I dont need to travel to Petoskey or TC to shop. We also get the benefit of the tourist dollars, they actually help our town.

Dont be jealous cause I live in a beautiful area, on 35 acres....you can bash all you want, I live here, I know the truth

[Michigansnowflake]

and its pretty sad that you make fun of an unfortunate accident that happened over 10 years ago...........I guess it really is more dangerous in Charlevoix than SE MI

[Bluefly]

Sprawl, not old industrial cities, is what makes all of Michigan far uglier than it should be.

I worry about Marquette. I think where it's at now is pretty much right. It has everything one would need from a city that size. I'll concede a Wal Mart because, well, it's there and caters to a segment of the population that wants to consume as much as they can as cheaply as they can with little regard to social, ecological, or economic factors. I can't stop them.

The problem is they want to build a Home Depot across from Menards (another big home improvement warehouse). Some want to build another mall halfway to Negaunee (even though there's already a half empty mall created by the existing mall).

They can't see that growth isn't inherently good. The benefits of repeating what's already there just so companies from far away can snatch a piece of the pie and a little more tax revenue provides little more to the community besides a few cents off a box off nails. It's just sprawl and the greedy township is going to destroy what makes the city of Marquette beautiful.

[Huckleberry3911948]

cities are not ugly, they are just of bunch of buildings staring at each other.
ugly is how people treat each other.