[magellan]

Originally Posted by M TYPE X

While Oakland County suburbs are nice, they really still don't make up for a viable downtown city center in the heart of the metroplex. The Big Beaver corridor isn't a real downtown.

University of Michigan graduates have a greater tendency and/or expectation to leave the state than University of Illinois grads, who of course already have Chicagoland. There are likely a number of Wisconsin grads here in Illinois. Penn State grads move in east coast circles.

Exactly. In Michigan, we really have a knack for allowing unchecked growth out into the far hinterlands (35 Mile anyone?), and then wonder why young people won't stay here and live in an apartment overlooking a bean field, where they have to get in their car to drive 100 yards (which takes 20 minutes) to the Starbucks for fear of being hit in traffic on an 8 lane boulevard with FUML's everywhere.

If you live in Metro D and think that you are divorced from the Detroit perception, you're kidding yourself. And then Oakland County wouldn't even support expanding Cobo in downtown Detroit, a convention center that looks like a former Soviet Bloc reject. A place where many business travelers from around the U.S. get their first taste of downtown Detroit. Yikes.

Sorry, end rant.

[mcase0225]

Originally Posted by Cato the Elder

That's interesting. Most of the adults I see leaving are high school grads in manufacturing who have lost their turn-screw jobs. These are the ones who usually post the vitriolic comments on here about the world collapsing in MI. On my block, the young couples who have moved in during the last two years from out of the region are all college-educated, mostly with advanced degrees - none with auto-related jobs. U of M people leave the state, but so do people who attend the University of Virginia, Cal, Illinois, Wisconsin, etc., etc., etc. That's the plight of having a top-notch state school. The OP will probably leave after law school, but she was never "here" to begin with. The school is drawing outsiders who at least have a chance at staying. At the least, she will see Michigan and will hopefully leave with a positive image in her mind. Despite all its problems, Philadelphia definitely left a positive overall impression on me that I carry to this day in MI.

Cato is right. I am moving to Michigan because of school, but since I have never lived anywhere else besides Texas, I am looking for experiences to take away with me. My dream is to work (not live) in New York City, but who knows I may absolutely love Michigan and end up staying. I am looking forward to this opportunity.

[jeffncandace]

Originally Posted by mcase0225

Cato is right. I am moving to Michigan because of school, but since I have never lived anywhere else besides Texas, I am looking for experiences to take away with me. My dream is to work (not live) in New York City, but who knows I may absolutely love Michigan and end up staying. I am looking forward to this opportunity.

I wish you the best. I moved here from So Cal last year and we absolutely love it, flaws and all. No place is perfect, it's what you make of it.

[and the]

Which law school are you attending that's an easy commute from Rochester? Ave Maria is moving to Florida, Cooley and Detroit College of Law are both in Lansing, Wayne State is in Detroit and U of M is in Ann Arbor. Are there any other law schools in MI???

[mcase0225]

Originally Posted by and the

Which law school are you attending that's an easy commute from Rochester? Ave Maria is moving to Florida, Cooley and Detroit College of Law are both in Lansing, Wayne State is in Detroit and U of M is in Ann Arbor. Are there any other law schools in MI???

Cooley has a small campus in Rochester.

[mcase0225]

Originally Posted by jeffncandace

I wish you the best. I moved here from So Cal last year and we absolutely love it, flaws and all. No place is perfect, it's what you make of it.

Thanks! I know that I am going to like living up there. Moving away is not an experience that many people get, so I am going to make the best of it.

[TeacherMan]

Originally Posted by mcase0225

Thanks! I know that I am going to like living up there. Moving away is not an experience that many people get, so I am going to make the best of it.

From a man who married a Mexican (National) to a Mexican...BUENA SUERTE!! Espero que tienes mucho divertido cuando estan en Michigan! Seriousy, I hope you enjoy the beauty of the state.
IMO, you should like Rochester, since you are coming from San Anton.
-BUT, be sure you TREAT yourself to a west side visit and Lake Michigan sunset. They are real and they are SPECTACULAR!!!
-Make sure you visit MexicanTown, but after trying the popular Tex-Mex places, make sure you explore and visit the side restaurants.
-Take in the Art Festival in Detroit.
-When you have time...go visit Chicago...
You'll be safe..have some fun...Enjoy your time in Michigan!

P.S. Cooley is making a name for itself, and I was very happy with my time at GVSU in GR...would love to move back, but teaching jobs are tough...so we must look elsewhere...

[and the]

Cooley has a small campus in Rochester.

No kidding, I didn't know that....DCL was still in Detroit....

[bluebird39]

Hi there,

We moved to Northern MI almost a year ago. I was born and raised in Louisiana, and have many relatives in Texas. I left La many years ago to live in Oregon (good Mexican food there too :-) ). I was worried about the winters too, but after this last winter, I would never want to live without the cold and snow again! I LOVED the snow, and after finding good winter gear for all of us, it was quite comfortable. It's nice to be "forced" to slow down. I really enjoyed the beauty of the snow, and marveled at all of the different textures, shapes, and moods of each snowflake and snowstorm. It was really facinating! I hope you'll have a similar experience coming from Texas. Call me crazy, but I was sad to see winter come to an end...

I don't know too much about "downstate", or law school, but am glad to hear of another moving to the state. Good luck.

BTW, I have learned to make my own "Mexican food" here, since there is REALLY no good Mexican food up here.... I make all of my tortillas, beans and rice from scratch, but miss good chips. Last time I was in Dallas the food I had wasn't nearly as good as the Mexican food we had in Oregon. I also miss good sushi, being from the West coast. I became addicted to it while there, and no one up here knows what it is. I've learned to make that too... Being from Louisiana, I long ago learned to make cajun food, since there isn't any on the West coast. At least people here know what okra is...

[jeffncandace]

Originally Posted by bluebird39

I was worried about the winters too, but after this last winter, I would never want to live without the cold and snow again! I LOVED the snow, and after finding good winter gear for all of us, it was quite comfortable. It's nice to be "forced" to slow down. I really enjoyed the beauty of the snow, and marveled at all of the different textures, shapes, and moods of each snowflake and snowstorm. It was really facinating! I hope you'll have a similar experience coming from Texas. Call me crazy, but I was sad to see winter come to an end

I totally understand this! My wife and I LOVED the snow and we were kinda sad to see it go too. We would get all excited like little kids whenever it would snow. Being from So Cal, snow is still a novelty to us. Michigan natives think we are crazy!