06-02-2010, 04:35 AM
Location: Montana
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Ok everyone. So after having researched this one for several years the jury is still out on which Upper Peninsula City gets the most snowfall.
There is no such thing as Too much for us. I was raised in the lower peninsula and am an ex world cup skier.We are moving back to Mi to retire. I would be happy with year round snow !
I have been looking at Marquette, (Maybe Negaunee) but preffer the wilderness, So we are also looking at Ironwood, Bessemer and Wakefield which would put me close to Indianhead, Blackjack and others.
Ultimately we would like to find an area that gets really pounded, and is not a metro area. We preffer the wilderness feeling and the western UP looks a bit more Remote and cost friendly. I also love to mountain bike in the Summer, so trails are welcome. But our main priority is lots of snow.
Feedback and help would be great. Thnx
06-02-2010, 04:41 AM
Location: Traverse City, MI
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Try Ontonagon. It got 300 inches last winter, houses are cheap.
06-02-2010, 07:02 AM
Location: Northwestern Michigan
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06-02-2010, 10:49 AM
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Ok everyone. So after having researched this one for several years the jury is still out on which Upper Peninsula City gets the most snowfall.
There is no such thing as Too much for us. I was raised in the lower peninsula and am an ex world cup skier.We are moving back to Mi to retire. I would be happy with year round snow !
I have been looking at Marquette, (Maybe Negaunee) but preffer the wilderness, So we are also looking at Ironwood, Bessemer and Wakefield which would put me close to Indianhead, Blackjack and others.
Ultimately we would like to find an area that gets really pounded, and is not a metro area. We preffer the wilderness feeling and the western UP looks a bit more Remote and cost friendly. I also love to mountain bike in the Summer, so trails are welcome. But our main priority is lots of snow.
Feedback and help would be great. Thnx
I also am a skier with an insatiable need for snow, and considered moving to the UP due to the easy access to skiing and dependable snow, but after researching it for a couple of years have decided I can't do any better than where I am now here in Oregon. We are still skiing here, there's probably a month left if you don't mind working to get to the snow - that involves 4wd, a two-hour drive (one way) and backcountry gear to get to where the snow is; certainly not for everyone. It's a lot of work, yes, but the alternative is living somewhere where the season ends in March or April. In my 10 years here, I've been able to ski into June every year and into July 3 of those 10. In fact, I know people who ski year-round, but that involves climbing mountains with skis on your back just to get in a few turns - they are true diehards. Yes, it's a lot of work and effort - a lot - but so far I'm still into it. Hard to say if I'll still have that enthusiasm in 10 years, or even in a couple years for that matter, but for now I'm staying put. I think I whined about the difficulty of the logistics of skiing around here in some other threads, but when May rolled around and I was still skiing twice a week on fresh powder...makes me realize how good I've got it.
My point is, if you really love snow, the PNW is hard to beat. Mt Bachelor in the Bend area is usually open til Memorial Day, if you like lift skiing. And right now, Bend is reeling from the recession and property there is about as cheap as it's gonna get.
Anyway, didn't mean to hijack the thread, but thought I'd pass along the info to a fellow snow lover. Living in Montana, you may already know about the PNW, so apologies for being redundant if that is the case.
I'll say one thing for the UP, the property prices are just incredibly affordable, and that is a big draw. You can't even buy a potting shed here for what you'd pay for an older stick-built house there, so your money goes a long way there. I used to live in Wisconsin and got up to the UP occasionally. A beautiful area with a lot to offer. Except for the bugs. We don't get 'em here, except in certain elevations in the mountains after the snow melts.
cheers.
06-02-2010, 10:16 PM
Location: Montana
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Research for other snow lovers looking here:
If you want to know where the big "pow" is I have found that Mt Baker WA has set records at over 1000" (Of coarse you cant "live" there) and the nearest city is Glacier - too low elevation for such totals. last season Timberline had over 700". I worked at Mammoth one year when they surpassed 600" I have a pic of Stump Alley w/ a 50` drift in the lot.
Tahoe is also Impressive and Blue Canyon CA (Top of Donner Pass) always gets buried. The entire Tahoe area is a sight every skier must see in an El ninio year. Jim Cantor of the Weather channel recently did a special at Mt Washington Observatory of the unbelievable conditions there. I could go on mentioning record years at Grand Targhee, Jackson, Alta, Alyeska and the Colorado resorts but all said I am sure the Upper peninsula can come close or near match while being much more cost effective. This is why we choose good ole Michigan.
This may turn out to be an interesting thread because I have read others saying parts of the lower Pn such as Gaylord, Mancelona and others have had the most snow so lets see what everybody will post. Mostly we are looking for (remote), big snow, low cost
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06-03-2010, 01:59 PM
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I find Iron wood a snowmobilers town if you have fat pockets. Today Newberry is also a snowmobilers town and the pockets don't have to be so fat. Newberry is sort of new at the game as at one time you could not ride into the town area any way at all to go to a resturant even. A friend got a ticket in 1979 for just doing a U turn around the city limit sign with a cop watching. Well He did ride in the city limits.
I would look at the Negaunee area Big Bay or even La nace.
Al
06-03-2010, 04:01 PM
Location: State of Superior
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OK, hands down , the U.P. gets the most snow east of Colorado. Considering axcess and " livable" areas, not 10,000 ft. mountain tops , the U.P. gets MORE snow than just about anywhere. Last year we skied into May, not this year.
Marquette is your best bet, we get the most snow, just outside the city is all the wilderness you need, and for anyone retiring , we have the best medical. MQT MTN. is a great place to ski, and its right in town.
The other area with a lot of snow is the Copper Country, 100 miles west of here. Some spots get more than us, but axcess to downhill shing is limited. Great for crosscountry however. Its a little less expensive than here in Marquette, but has more tourists on the summer.
06-07-2010, 12:44 AM
Location: Montana
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Leaning toward Negaunee - Can someone give me some feedback ?
06-07-2010, 06:48 AM
Location: State of Superior
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Leaning toward Negaunee - Can someone give me some feedback ?
Negaunee is an old mining town.. In its heyday it was larger than Marquette. Today the downtown is mostly rundown,old,abandoned, has a ghost town feel.
Outlying areas of Negaunee are mostly modest,working class neighborhoods. Actually, its becoming an extension of Marquette these days, and is included in the metro area of Marquette County. Housing prices and rents would be less than anywhere in Marquette.
Negaunee sits on a high plateau, along with its sister city Isphming. Elevations are about 600 feet higher than downtown Marquette, so, long distance views of Lake Superior are not hard to find. More snow, a little colder and a little poorer with the closing of all the mines, thats Negaunee. A lot of locals go bar hoping in Negaunee, as it has more than its share for some reason. Teal Lake is right on US 41 and is starting to developed some more upscale housing these days, however,the lake is restricted to non motor boats as its a source of water for the city.
06-08-2010, 02:03 PM
Location: Wyandotte, MI
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If you want to talk official snow totals, the official weather records for Marquette actually come from Negaunee, which sees WAY more snow than Marquette proper.
I believe somewhere in the Keewenaw would be the winner? Or Paradise area near Lake Superior.
Some of the snowbelts in NW MI traditionally do better than many areas of the U.P.
Funny thing is, it has been DOWNSTATE that has been getting the big synoptic (system) snowstorms the past 3 winters...however in the lee of a lake effect snowbelt you simply can NEVER go wrong.
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People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)