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We had a pretty strict "no cammies in public", policy, in the Marines. Not sure if it's changed, but, I remember seeing one or two guys getting chewed out in public, when I was in. The exceptions were supermarkets if a Marine needed to get some family stuff, gas stations, banks, etc. Pretty narrow and strictly defined, which helps discipline.
Contrast this with these s*** bags I see around Ft. Jackson, although I'm sure few of them are what I would call "real soldiers". A few of our friends are full time Army, on the base (all drill sergeants), and none of them wander around out in public in their BDU's. Someone wants people in public to see them in uniform, then it should be service uniforms, not cammies.
it's even stricter now. No cammies, anywhere. Not even gas stations, or daycare/school.
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We had a pretty strict "no cammies in public", policy, in the Marines. Not sure if it's changed, but, I remember seeing one or two guys getting chewed out in public, when I was in. The exceptions were supermarkets if a Marine needed to get some family stuff, gas stations, banks, etc. Pretty narrow and strictly defined, which helps discipline.
Contrast this with these s*** bags I see around Ft. Jackson, although I'm sure few of them are what I would call "real soldiers". A few of our friends are full time Army, on the base (all drill sergeants), and none of them wander around out in public in their BDU's. Someone wants people in public to see them in uniform, then it should be service uniforms, not cammies.
Yes; they also say "do not dryclean"...What's the worst about the reasoning for not having the shoulder pockets is to retain the tradition of stripes on the sleeve. I'm guessing 20% of the air force wear flightsuits, they don't have any stripes on their sleeves. I truely feel we should all wear flightsuits anyways; think I'm alone in my beliefs...
As someone who started his career in the old cotton fatigues, I sure miss the days of patch-filled utility uniforms (i.e. Command & wing patches along with your AFSC badge and maybe a "Master Technician" or "Master Crew Chief" Badge thrown in. And, briefly, I even wore a "Rapid Deployment Force" patch... JagMan, IMHO flight suits are for those who fly as aircrew members. Actually, I found the BDUs much more suited for the flightline (especially since I could remove my shirt when it was hot on the ramp)
As someone who started his career in the old cotton fatigues, I sure miss the days of patch-filled utility uniforms (i.e. Command & wing patches along with your AFSC badge and maybe a "Master Technician" or "Master Crew Chief" Badge thrown in. And, briefly, I even wore a "Rapid Deployment Force" patch... JagMan, IMHO flight suits are for those who fly as aircrew members. Actually, I found the BDUs much more suited for the flightline (especially since I could remove my shirt when it was hot on the ramp)
I wonder if you found an advertiser to pay you to advertise their patch, would anyone notice on the patch filled uniform? Maybe a "drink pepsi" patch, lol...
Personally... I think someone wearing a uni in public is looking for attention, whether it be negative or positive. I view it in the same regard as a police officer wearing his side arm and badge with his civilian clothes. I'll get railed for this, but I honestly think anyone wearing Camo outside of war (or being a redneck) is completely stupid. YES you should be proud that you've given up so much for so little, but consider the fact that much of the coastline America views most American action since WWII as completely disgusting. The only people in the Army since Vietnam are there by choice... Mod deleted; NO obscenities... I'm coming off as a troll.. but I honestly don't care.. flame away
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Personally... I think someone wearing a uni in public is looking for attention, whether it be negative or positive. I view it in the same regard as a police officer wearing his side arm and badge with his civilian clothes. I'll get railed for this, but I honestly think anyone wearing Camo outside of war (or being a redneck) is completely stupid. YES you should be proud that you've given up so much for so little, but consider the fact that much of the coastline America views most American action since WWII as completely disgusting. The only people in the Army since Vietnam are there by choice... and their choice is often viewed as simply a reason "to kick me some towel head ass!!!"
Your post basically mimics exactly what I was going to write too.
I worked for a company once that gave entry discounts (it was a theme park) to people in the military sometimes, but there were requirements. Soldiers would come dressed in full camo combat gear, demanding a hefty discount and pulling a fit about '__ company not supporting the troops!' and such if they didn't qualify. It was pathetic. The sad thing is that I witnessed it happen more times than I could count. So people working at the ticket sales / guest relations areas would come to realize that someone walking up in military gear = a pain in the a$$. Usually the soldiers would be white, male and Southern it was noticed...
Cville<>Centerville & Thepinksquid, believe what ya wanna believe. Just remember that those who wear the uniforms of our military do so to guarantee your right to free speech...
Your post basically mimics exactly what I was going to write too.
I worked for a company once that gave entry discounts (it was a theme park) to people in the military sometimes, but there were requirements. Soldiers would come dressed in full camo combat gear, demanding a hefty discount and pulling a fit about '__ company not supporting the troops!' and such if they didn't qualify. It was pathetic. The sad thing is that I witnessed it happen more times than I could count. So people working at the ticket sales / guest relations areas would come to realize that someone walking up in military gear = a pain in the a$$. Usually the soldiers would be white, male and Southern it was noticed...
A bit OT, but, this jogged my memory. A fireman in my home town of Rochester, NY, did the same thing. Here I was working two jobs and going to school after serving in the Marines, and some idiot from the city fire dept. had a hissy fit in the store I worked at on weekends, 'cause I told him, "No, we don't have a discount for firefighters, here...". No doubt your typical union hack who thinks that just because Sept. 11th happened, all of a sudden we're supposed to lay roses in front of the guy and give him discounts at his every beck and call.
Some people will never be happy, and many these days think they deserve special treatment.
My attitude (4 years Marine Corps, combat experience, etc.), is, please leave your tree suit/work uniform/whatever for wear on base. Out in town wear of that stuff should only be in case of emergency. Not my problem somebody didn't plan ahead, etc. Also, not my problem somebody decided to start a family while in the service, as the entitlement mentality seems to be high amongst many who live off the military dole (productive and honorable servicemembers, excluded). Folks (particularly civilians) shouldn't have to see a sea of tree suits at a day care center, in fact I would imagine it would be a point of concern for many service folks, as well. Some of the least productive, whiney Marines I met were the ones with families, and they were often times the worst offenders of basic policies/rules, uniform rules included.
One thing I should have probably mentioned was that I do know personally many great service men and women, and probably the worst thing to come is that stereotyping some of the 'bad eggs' is detrimental to those who deserve it, and aren't abusing the privilege of their uniform.
From what I've seen over the years, a lot depends on circumstances , especially-location. I live in a rural area..but not near any major military facility. I suppose I could wear my last issued set of BDU's, boots , cover, etc...and folks around here would probably care less ..probably wouldn't even know it's not the current uniform. That being said, there are a fair number of former full/part time military in this part of upstate. It's not unusual to see some guy out working around his place wearing some leftover issue cover..or boots..etc...Doesn't bother me.
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And, briefly, I even wore a "Rapid Deployment Force" patch... JagMan, IMHO flight suits are for those who fly as aircrew members. Actually, I found the BDUs much more suited for the flightline (especially since I could remove my shirt when it was hot on the ramp)
