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Old 11-17-2010, 10:42 AM
 
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I suppose the only proof a vet would have is a DD-214. You either have one, or you don't.
So if this 180 or less person gets a DD214 (and they will) who was discharged becasue he could not adapt, would you still call him a vet?
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Old 11-17-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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If a person served, and never saw action, are they still a vet?
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Old 11-17-2010, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I joined the US Army in 1957, served three years and when I talk to the real soldiers that served in combat I feel guilty. I like Golden Corral and when I heard of their program concerning veterans, I emailed them and thanked them. However I would not accept a free meal. I believe that belongs to the real soldiers.

Sir, you were a real soldier, and you are a veteran. Not everybody gets to go "to the front". It is a matter of ALL working together: from the guy who works in contracting to get parts and supplies, to the guy who loads munitions on jets (yet he/she in in the rear), to the clerk who ensures you get paid, to the crypto guys, etc.

You did do your part, and that is all that matters and all that can be expected. Stand tall.
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Old 11-17-2010, 03:28 PM
 
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If a person served, and never saw action, are they still a vet?
I have assumed both roles and neither role is easy.

Action: goes without saying so there's no explanation needed.

No action: The folks that do not see action are probably playing the support role which mostly means pulling double duty along with 12 hour shifts. During wartime, weekends are not weekends.

In short, both roles are pivotal to the country's ultimate success. One cannot go without the other.
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Old 11-17-2010, 03:35 PM
 
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So if this 180 day or less person gets a DD214 (and they will) who was discharged because he could not adapt, would you still call him a vet?
Added the word day...........

If the guy get's to his first unit, then I would consider him/her a vet. Anything earlier, nope, nota...not a vet...........
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:57 PM
 
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If a person served, and never saw action, are they still a vet?
Yes. They are just not a combat vet.
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:06 PM
 
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This dude didn't even make it thru "Boot"! He told us that his medical release was due to flat feet.

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Added the word day...........

If the guy get's to his first unit, then I would consider him/her a vet. Anything earlier, nope, nota...not a vet...........
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Old 11-18-2010, 05:47 AM
 
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This dude didn't even make it thru "Boot"! He told us that his medical release was due to flat feet.
And your point?

No, I do not consider him a vet....flat feet, failure to adapt, put any excuse ____________ here and if that person did not make it through "Boot", they are not a vet, in my opinion, wheather they have a DD214 or not....
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Old 10-01-2015, 05:45 PM
 
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Google title 38 section 101 US definition of veteran benefits. Some people will like it and others will hate it. It's pretty simple. If you go into the military and get any discharge besides dishonorable you are a vet. An ELS discharge is a discharge, so is bad conduct, other then honorale, general and honorable. Only 2 of these types of discharges are in titled to receive VA benefits with out any strings. People screw up, even they served 10 years and received a bad conduct discharge, their benefits are removed, but they are still a veteran. To me personally, it is easy to say thank you if they deserve it. So to all vets and previous military members, thank you.
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Old 10-01-2015, 08:14 PM
 
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If a person served, and never saw action, are they still a vet?
Of course they are. What a silly question. The military requires many more support people than trigger pullers, and those trigger pullers would not be in action were it not for everyone else doing their part.
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