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Old 11-29-2010, 07:53 AM
 
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Default I'm 30. Can I still join the military?

I'm a college-educated, unemployed person who does not want to end up homeless and truly suicidally depressed. Assuming that at my age I can still join the military, can someone please tell me what the military is really like?

This is what I know: they take you on board, send you to basic training, and then they give you a job in a domestic military base or send you to a conflict zone, where you either work as an active solider or perform a job within the military base. The job you get in the military depends on your performance on intelligence tests. If you score highly and demonstrate leadership skills, you get a job managing people. If you score highly but show little or no leadership potential, you end up in charge of expensive machinery. If you score lowly, you end up working as a cook, sweeping floors or patrolling the base.

Is that right?

And after you are done with your 4 years of service you can either return to civilian life or continue enrolled in the military for life.

Now a few things. Is there really such thing as staying in the military for life or do they kick you out after they determine that you are too old to be useful to your country?

If you instead choose to return to civilian life, what perks do you get? You get the gi bill (which in my case would help me cover some of the cost of a graduate degree), you get health insurance for life (I'm not sure about this part), and, as a veteran, your job applications receive special consideration when you apply for civilian jobs (higher likelihood that you will get hired).

Is that how it works or did I miss something?
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Ufa, Republic of Bashkortostan, Russian Federation
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As far as I know the U.S.Military enlisting age limit is 26. But I met throughout the web some stories of people who joined the military even in their 30s. Also I believe they won't kick you out because of you gets old; look at different generals who aren't young. Just the older you are the less physical demands you must to meet. And you serve as long as you are meeting the requirements for your physical and mental state, and without violations of the contract and different rules from your side.

Since you are college-educated person, you probably will enlisted as a specialist, not as just a private. That means more money, of course.

Oh, the thing I wanted to mention. Few months ago, I heard the military is overweighted, so people wait for months before they are sent to the basic combat training.

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Old 11-29-2010, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Kentucky
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They've upped the age limit to 41 now because the population is so...........overweight, they're finding people in their mid 30s to early 40s are in better shape than a lot of the 18 year olds out there that are shamefully shaped like pears at that young age.

You can do whatever you want to do in the military. My suggestion is take the ASVAB and think long and hard about what you want to do.
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Old 11-29-2010, 10:05 AM
 
Location: New Mexico USA
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If you score lowly, you end up working as a cook, sweeping floors or patrolling the base.

Is that right?
What is wrong with being a cook? You too good to work with your hands? I love to cook. My father was a cook. I never patrolled a base, just posts, sites and forts, and in addition to sweeping floors, I became a master at the use of the buffer.

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And after you are done with your 4 years of service you can either return to civilian life or continue enrolled in the military for life.
Your obligation is technically eight years. You get out when your time comes.

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Now a few things. Is there really such thing as staying in the military for life or do they kick you out after they determine that you are too old to be useful to your country?
You have options. Generally retirement is at 20, some go to 30 years. I went to 22 years.

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If you instead choose to return to civilian life, what perks do you get?
A good education in life... GI Bill. VA Guaranteed loan (which I have used to buy four different homes)

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You get the gi bill (which in my case would help me cover some of the cost of a graduate degree), you get health insurance for life (I'm not sure about this part)
Yep, I get heath care until I die. That sounds ironic.... My wife also gets health care...

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, and, as a veteran, your job applications receive special consideration when you apply for civilian jobs (higher likelihood that you will get hired).
You may get some considerations. My experience allowed me to get a job as an independent contractor, and then I retired at age 51, I do some part time work, and volunteer work...

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Is that how it works or did I miss something?
You missed a lot, there have been books written about it. After I retired at 22 years, I kind of wished I had maybe stayed a few more years. Traveled around the world many times, met a lot of people, some nice, some probably wanted to kill me, ate a lot of strange food, some nice, some that I thought was going to kill me. Drank a lot of beer all over the world. Got to see the greatest country in the world...


Rich

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Old 11-29-2010, 10:48 AM
 
Location: property tax hell
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Each branch has their own limit - but they all range between 27-42.

Since you're college educated, OCS is also an option.

As for preferences in hiring, that's only in Federal jobs. It doesn't apply in the private sector in an official capacity.

While the military has its benefits - this is one line of work where you better be certain that its for you. Its not a civilian job, and it has its own set of rules/codes. Once in, you basically do what your told, and get put where they need you. And if you don't like it, you don't simply get to quit with 2 weeks notice. Not saying you have zero options... but its definitely not an option one would take lightly.
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Old 11-29-2010, 11:13 AM
 
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You are (I believe) too old for the air force, marines and the coast guard, but you can still join the navy and army.

You get medical if you retire. If you just do your tour and get out, don't count on the VA as medical insurance.

Depending on the branch and the skill chosen, active duty enlistment will be from two to six years. You have a reserve obligation that brings your total service obligation to eight years. So, if you enlist in the army for two years, you will have a six year reserve obligation.

Jobs are based on what you want to do and how well you do on the entry test. Yes, some jobs don't require high scores but they all require passing scores. Morons are not relegated to patrolling bases and everyone appreciates a good cook and mess sergeant. Promotions are based on a number of factors, including the fact that there has to be a position to get promoted into. What you are in charge of is based on your specialty. An infantryman will be in charge of troops. A tank commander is in charge of his tank and crew. A person is not put in charge of millions of dollars of machinery because they lack leadership ability. They are put in charge of machinery because they are technicians who specialize in whatever they are doing. An infantry captain would not run a nuclear reactor and a nuclear reactor operator would not run a company of infantry, etc. etc. To my knowledge all services have leadership schools for enlisted personnel.

All services have a mandatory retirement age or you must retire (or leave without a retirement) if you fail to make X rank by X numbers of years of service. You can't stay a private for 20 years. You have to move up or move out.

With a degree, officer candidate school is always an option, but don't expect to be a quick option. You can always enlist and then try for OCS.
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Old 11-29-2010, 01:09 PM
 
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Seriously, how many more rhetorical, non-sensical, and essentially dumb questions can you ask?
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Old 11-29-2010, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Ufa, Republic of Bashkortostan, Russian Federation
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FFestus, ask whatever you would like to ask here and what is not violate the rules. It's your right.
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Old 11-29-2010, 03:57 PM
 
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Seriously, how many more rhetorical, non-sensical, and essentially dumb questions can you ask?
Can trolls join the Military ?
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Old 11-29-2010, 05:12 PM
 
Location: under a bridge
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Can trolls join the Military ?
Don't ask, don't tell.
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