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Old 02-20-2012, 07:18 PM
 
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Team 6 hands down. Consider the selection process and training..

"The training schedule was intense. A former Team member claims that in one year SEAL Team Six fired more rounds of ammunition than the entire U.S. Marine Corps.[18] The emphasis was on shooting skills, range firing, close-quarters battle (CQB), and stress shooting in a variety of conditions."

"Founder Marcinko's criteria for recruiting applicants was combat experience so he would know they could perform under fire; language skills were vital, as the unit would have a worldwide mandate to communicate with the local population if needed; union skills, to be able to blend in as civilians during an operation; and finally SEAL skills."

Part of the selection process if I remember is a current seal puts his name up on a board and then the seal team 6 guys vote on whether they even want him to try out based upon his reputation among his peers.

 
Old 02-20-2012, 11:25 PM
 
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I don't understand this whole fascination with the SEALS. They're not the only badass Special Operations unit in the military, you know. Oh - also, there's no such thing as "Seal Team 6" these days.

The "best of the best" is almost certainly CIA SAD. They are one of the lesser known groups but they make the SEALS look like pansies. Actually, they recruit from the elite SEAL, DELTA, Activity, Air Force SOC, etc.
 
Old 02-21-2012, 09:20 AM
 
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I don't understand this whole fascination with the SEALS. They're not the only badass Special Operations unit in the military, you know. Oh - also, there's no such thing as "Seal Team 6" these days.

The "best of the best" is almost certainly CIA SAD. They are one of the lesser known groups but they make the SEALS look like pansies. Actually, they recruit from the elite SEAL, DELTA, Activity, Air Force SOC, etc.
Good point.
 
Old 02-21-2012, 12:02 PM
 
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SAD teams basically won the war in Afghanistan before the regulars even got there (as much as it has ever been won), entered Iraq before the war officially started, pulled Saddam out of his hole along with Delta, and were on the team who blew down bin Laden's doors, too. They also manage the important drone strikes while targeting enemy combatants from the ground in several countries, including Pakistan, Yemen, and at least once in Syria. Total badasses.
 
Old 02-21-2012, 07:36 PM
 
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I could tell you all the secrets to the United States Army's Special Forces but then I'd have to kill you because we don't want the facts in the hands of outsiders.
If you were Special Forces you wouldn't be bragging about it.
 
Old 03-04-2012, 05:50 AM
 
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Hello.

Right, I'm English, ex Coldstream Guards just did my last tour of Afghanistan and ended 22 years of service. I've served in Desert Shield, Desert Storm, Occupation of Iraq, Bosnia, Kosovo, the 2nd bash at Iraq, the 2nd occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. So, those are my credentials.

In the last 2 years i've 'worked' with the following forces on operations in the Helmand province particularly the Babaji area.

SAS, Rangers, SRR, SEALS, Legion etrangere and Jaegerkorpset.

Also over the years i've done jobs with the SBS, KSK, Gurkas, SASR and GROM. It would be very difficult to pick amongst them, infact i wouldn't. The level of skill, professionalism and pride amongst them all was second to none and i'm proud to have been given cap badges or insignia of some form from all of them. Work with them then try and choose.
 
Old 03-04-2012, 07:04 AM
 
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I think once you get to a certain point, its truthfully a wash.
 
Old 03-26-2012, 12:11 PM
 
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I agree with Jester2138 who pointed out the best special forces in the world aren't military but paramilitary. The CIA Special Activities Division would be the top for the US since they recruit from special operations units in the US so they are already getting candidates that are the cream of the crop. Even then most of them from what little information their is available don't meet the requirements to go through the selection process and don't pass it even if they do. So to answer the OP's question the CIA's special activities division and other nations equivalent would be the best special forces in the world.
 
Old 03-26-2012, 03:10 PM
 
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I agree with Jester2138 who pointed out the best special forces in the world aren't military but paramilitary. The CIA Special Activities Division would be the top for the US since they recruit from special operations units in the US so they are already getting candidates that are the cream of the crop. Even then most of them from what little information their is available don't meet the requirements to go through the selection process and don't pass it even if they do. So to answer the OP's question the CIA's special activities division and other nations equivalent would be the best special forces in the world.
I agree a lot of special forces within special forces exist. For instance MI6 has a specialist unit under their control which has always been referred to as 'The Increment' and more recently as 'E Squardon' SAS.

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Secret unit within the special forces

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16573516




The existence of E Squadron is well known within the special forces community but has not hitherto been discussed publicly. It was formed five years ago to work closely with the intelligence service MI6, and is mainly involved in missions where maximum discretion is required, say Whitehall insiders.

Its role as a small, handpicked force operating with MI6 makes it the modern-day successor to the shadowy cell sometimes referred to as the Increment.

While the existence of teams of this kind is a gift for thriller writers looking to insert a hit team of hardened SAS men into their plotline, the reality of E Squadron's operations has been a little more prosaic.
Last March's debacle, in which six members of the squadron were caught in Libya, was highly embarrassing. The reason for their presence, escorting two people from MI6, gives a clue to the facilitating role they often play in foreign intelligence operations in risky places.

After 9/11, with major military commitments in Afghanistan and then Iraq, MI6 stepped up its intelligence-gathering in many places that had hitherto been off the radar or considered too dangerous.
It was often backed up by UK special forces, but the competing demands on them to support special operations in Afghanistan and Iraq eventually led to the creation of E Squadron.

According to special forces people, E Squadron is a composite organisation formed from selected SAS, SBS and Special Reconnaissance Regiment operators.

It is not technically part of the SAS or SBS, but at the disposal of the Director of Special Forces and MI6.

The squadron often operates in plain clothes and with the full range of national support, such as false identities, at its disposal.

Whitehall sources suggest E Squadron was prepared to launch a rescue of a British citizen kidnapped in the Sahara in 2009, but could not obtain political clearance to do so before he was murdered by the hostage-takers.


The British Army Intelligence Corps have always created specialist units with fairly ordrinary mundane names such as the Force Research Unit (FRU) or Joinst Support Group (JSG).

Top secret army cell breaks terrorists - Telegraph

So besides the regular units it seems there are indeed other more secretive units. In the case of 22 SAS a fifth 'E' Squadron (under the control of the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), and in the case of the Intelligence Corp other units even more clandestine than the Special Reconnaissance Regiment (SRR). I am also fairy sure there are other secret units in many armed forces across the world which we never even know about.



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Old 05-04-2012, 11:28 PM
 
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Too many keyboard cowboys on this forum who have never served in Special Forces unit.
Israelis are way down pecking order-they've just been fighting a rabble of disorganised ill equiped arabs. They Israelis are also confined to certain type of warfare against the same enemy in the same terrain. They have severely limited capabilities outside of CQB/URBAN WARFARE
Russian's have brutal training, and the world's best inteligence agency-but their pecial Forces units are again limited like the Israelis. Come down to British SAS and SBS and SEALS/DELTA. British have teh toughest selection and the most experience-they've been doing it for a couple of generations longer than USA. They are also far better at green soldeiring than Americans, also superior in the jungle, the toughest theatre of ops
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