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Old 04-29-2012, 06:27 AM
 
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BBC News - US to remove troops from Okinawa

"The US and Japan have reached a deal to remove some 9,000 US Marines from Okinawa, where US forces have been stationed since World War II.
But the fate of the controversial Futenma airbase on the island has yet to be agreed, and 10,000 US service personnel will still be stationed across Japan."
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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On the surface this seems like such a simple story, Okinawans want Marines gone, so Marines agree to leave, but they've wanted the military off of Okinawa for decades and a significant presence will still remain. So what is the catalyst that is causing the Marines to leave now? Now they want to leave.

With cutbacks on the way and the future of military spending uncertain the Corps is playing a game to ensure it's survival and relavence. Marine Corps bases stateside are pretty much safe, simply b/c we don't maintain a lot of bases. I can't think of one that's expendable. The last Marine Corps base to shut down was El Toro, but even that was only so NAS Miramar could became MCAS Miramar. Any future cuts would likely come from overseas forces. If they ae all sitting in one spot, Okinawa, it's alot easier to cull them or shut down the base all together. With the President's focus on Asia, the Corps s going to use that insert Marines in a host of other "strategic" locations like Australia UPDATE 2-First Marines in Australia as U.S. ramps up Asia-Pacific focus | Reuters , Guam, and the Philipines Marines poised for more Philippine tours - Marine Corps News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Marine Corps Times . Strengthening connections and exercises with other allies in the area like the ROK Marines.

In short this has more to do with the Marines wanting to expand throughout Asia for the good and selfish reasons.
1. Increase capability to respond to threats in Asia and return Marines to it's maritime roots

2. More closely tie the Marine Corps to the US national defense and foreign policy strategy to stave of cuts and get it's share of DOD dollars as money gets tight

edit: But of course, Governor of the Prefect and the Japanese PM will use this for their own political gain as well.

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Old 04-29-2012, 03:10 PM
 
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Matthews, NC
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The last Marine Corps base to shut down was El Toro
MCAS Tustin shut down at the same time.

What will the all the residents of Whisper Alley do without the USMC there?
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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MCAS Tustin shut down at the same time.

What will the all the residents of Whisper Alley do without the USMC there?
I know, they combined to make Miramar. The only reason I didn't reference b/c nobody ever seems to mention or remember Tustin The point stands that even when those closings, it was more a transfer of assets than a scuttling of them and the current move is the Corps, once again, playing a shell game. As Harry Truman once said (and not as a compliment), "The Marine Corps......have a propaganda machine that is almost equal to Stalin's."
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Matthews, NC
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I know, they combined to make Miramar. The only reason I didn't reference b/c nobody ever seems to mention or remember Tustin The point stands that even when those closings, it was more a transfer of assets than a scuttling of them and the current move is the Corps, once again, playing a shell game. As Harry Truman once said (and not as a compliment), "The Marine Corps......have a propaganda machine that is almost equal to Stalin's."
I was on Tustin, that's the only reason I brought it up. The airwing side of the base was total Recon Platoon (also not a compliment).

Yes, I would assume that any comparison to Stalin would not be meant as a compliment. Unless, of course, you are comparing moustaches.
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