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Old 08-21-2017, 06:41 AM
 
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My aunts husband passed on yesterday. He was a Vietnam veteran.He talked very little of his experiences there,which I am sure is in part because of some of the hell he experienced. Salute Richard, you will be missed.
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Old 01-01-2018, 09:50 AM
 
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My father passed away Dec 22, at the age of 93. He never wanted to talk about his military service, only saying he was just a clerk typist. He did spend two years in the Pacific, according to his discharge paperwork, receiving several unit awards, including 3 Bronze Stars. The paperwork does not say what they were for.

I came home from the funeral service with his burial flag, and started researching display cases for it. Some included a space for medals. My sister says she has never seen any medals, so I guess I can assume he never asked for them. Before I order a case, I would like to find out what his medals were for, and if I can get medals for the display case.

Having enlisted in the Air Force during Viet Nam, I felt for a long time, that I didn't really do that much, and maybe, if he were "just a clerk typist" he might have felt the same way. However, I believe that every job in a combat area is critical to get the job done, and even if he was in a local HQ billet, it probably wasn't his choice, and he was doing the job they gave him which supported those who were in direct combat. Therefore I feel he earned any unit citations he was qualified to have.

Is there a place I can write or email, to acquire the details of his awards, and or get a copy of his medals?

Thanks for any help.
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Old 01-01-2018, 10:15 AM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Is there a place I can write or email, to acquire the details of his awards, and or get a copy of his medals?

Thanks for any help.
Sorry for your father's passing...

Check out this page:

"Veterans or next-of-kin of deceased veterans can use the online order form at vetrecs.archives.gov (or use the SF-180). Archival requests may also be processed online (or via the SF-180).

Obtain and Fill out Standard Form 180 (SF-180)
Or Write a Letter to Request Records"

https://www.archives.gov/veterans/mi...ndard-form-180
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Old 01-01-2018, 12:00 PM
 
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My father passed away Dec 22, at the age of 93. He never wanted to talk about his military service, only saying he was just a clerk typist. He did spend two years in the Pacific, according to his discharge paperwork, receiving several unit awards, including 3 Bronze Stars. The paperwork does not say what they were for.

I came home from the funeral service with his burial flag, and started researching display cases for it. Some included a space for medals. My sister says she has never seen any medals, so I guess I can assume he never asked for them. Before I order a case, I would like to find out what his medals were for, and if I can get medals for the display case.

Having enlisted in the Air Force during Viet Nam, I felt for a long time, that I didn't really do that much, and maybe, if he were "just a clerk typist" he might have felt the same way. However, I believe that every job in a combat area is critical to get the job done, and even if he was in a local HQ billet, it probably wasn't his choice, and he was doing the job they gave him which supported those who were in direct combat. Therefore I feel he earned any unit citations he was qualified to have.

Is there a place I can write or email, to acquire the details of his awards, and or get a copy of his medals?

Thanks for any help.



Salute to your father. He served In a combat zone for two years. I am sure he deserved whatever medals he received.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:21 AM
 
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My father passed away Dec 22, at the age of 93. He never wanted to talk about his military service, only saying he was just a clerk typist. He did spend two years in the Pacific, according to his discharge paperwork, receiving several unit awards, including 3 Bronze Stars. The paperwork does not say what they were for.

I came home from the funeral service with his burial flag, and started researching display cases for it. Some included a space for medals. My sister says she has never seen any medals, so I guess I can assume he never asked for them. Before I order a case, I would like to find out what his medals were for, and if I can get medals for the display case.

Having enlisted in the Air Force during Viet Nam, I felt for a long time, that I didn't really do that much, and maybe, if he were "just a clerk typist" he might have felt the same way. However, I believe that every job in a combat area is critical to get the job done, and even if he was in a local HQ billet, it probably wasn't his choice, and he was doing the job they gave him which supported those who were in direct combat. Therefore I feel he earned any unit citations he was qualified to have.

Is there a place I can write or email, to acquire the details of his awards, and or get a copy of his medals?

Thanks for any help.

Cruzincat your father was a hero. 3 Bronze stars are the primary indicator. The Bronze Star is an individual award not a unit award. That award is generally and almost always given for action in a combat zone. To have got 3 of them shows that he certainly did not just sit behind a typewriter typing reports.

That being said the form you should request from the link Poncho_NM posted is DA Form 638. This form is the narrative that nominated the award and will give at least something of the action that required the nomination.

Thank you for your father's service. It was his generation (assuming late WWII and Korea) that inspired me in my service. His generation and those veterans of both Korea and Vietnam showed what selfless sacrifice really meant.
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Old 01-02-2018, 08:13 AM
 
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Cruzincat your father was a hero. 3 Bronze stars are the primary indicator. The Bronze Star is an individual award not a unit award. That award is generally and almost always given for action in a combat zone. To have got 3 of them shows that he certainly did not just sit behind a typewriter typing reports.

That being said the form you should request from the link Poncho_NM posted is DA Form 638. This form is the narrative that nominated the award and will give at least something of the action that required the nomination.

Thank you for your father's service. It was his generation (assuming late WWII and Korea) that inspired me in my service. His generation and those veterans of both Korea and Vietnam showed what selfless sacrifice really meant.
Thank you for your comments. Wish me luck in getting the information. It may have all been lost in the 1973 fire, which resulted in the loss of 80% of the Army records on hand at the time. It will just take time to try, so I won't quit trying.

Cat

edit: This is a list of his awards from the discharge paperwork (not a DD214 as far as I can tell - it's white on a black background like an old photocopy).
ASIATIC-PACIFIC THEATER RIBBON W/2 BRONZE STARS
PHILLIPINE LIBERATION RIBBON W/1 BRONZE STAR
GOOD CONDUCT RIBBON
DISTINGUISHED UNIT BADGE
MERITORIOUS UNIT AWARD
WORLD WAR II VICTORY MEDAL

The copy my sister sent was blurry on quite a bit of it, so I cannot even figure out what unit he was in at this time. I am waiting for a better copy. As soon as she gets time away from playing Facebook games...

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Old 01-02-2018, 09:15 AM
 
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The form is: WD AGO 53-55

I searched that and found an explanation for the different boxes. The explanation for the box listing medals and awards included:
"There were 2 different Bronze Star Medals, one was for campaigns, and 1 for valor or distinguished service in action."

In the box listing "Battles or Campaigns", his listed New Guinea; Luzon.

So, it is possible that someone could get a Bronze Star for being part of a unit involved in a campaign. I won't know until I can get the information from Archives at this point.

Either way, in my opinion, anyone who went over there and managed to come back with a good conduct ribbon is a hero.
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Old 01-02-2018, 02:06 PM
 
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The form is: WD AGO 53-55

I searched that and found an explanation for the different boxes. The explanation for the box listing medals and awards included:
"There were 2 different Bronze Star Medals, one was for campaigns, and 1 for valor or distinguished service in action."

In the box listing "Battles or Campaigns", his listed New Guinea; Luzon.

So, it is possible that someone could get a Bronze Star for being part of a unit involved in a campaign. I won't know until I can get the information from Archives at this point.

Either way, in my opinion, anyone who went over there and managed to come back with a good conduct ribbon is a hero.
Anyone can be killed by enemy action in a combat zone. If his service was good enough for his chain of command to bother with an advanced award (which a Bronze Star is), then it should be considered good enough for anyone.
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:50 AM
 
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Thank you for your comments. Wish me luck in getting the information. It may have all been lost in the 1973 fire, which resulted in the loss of 80% of the Army records on hand at the time. It will just take time to try, so I won't quit trying.

Cat

edit: This is a list of his awards from the discharge paperwork (not a DD214 as far as I can tell - it's white on a black background like an old photocopy).
ASIATIC-PACIFIC THEATER RIBBON W/2 BRONZE STARS
PHILLIPINE LIBERATION RIBBON W/1 BRONZE STAR
GOOD CONDUCT RIBBON
DISTINGUISHED UNIT BADGE
MERITORIOUS UNIT AWARD
WORLD WAR II VICTORY MEDAL

The copy my sister sent was blurry on quite a bit of it, so I cannot even figure out what unit he was in at this time. I am waiting for a better copy. As soon as she gets time away from playing Facebook games...
Your father did not earn 3 Bronze Stars.
The Bronze stars indicate that he earned more than one of the same medal.
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