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Old 11-19-2012, 11:43 AM
Status: "It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah" (set 15 days ago)
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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I served honorably for four years in what was a relatively conflict-free time in our history. I'm certainly not complaining about the lack of being in harms way but can't help but wonder how I would have performed during the heat of battle. As my enlistment was winding down at my last base, I wondered whether I should take the initiative and take the battle to somebody off base. But, something tells me that shooting a surfer from the Ocean Beach Pier would leave me unfullfilled. Anybody else go through this?
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Monnem Germany/ from San Diego
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I got my Honorable discharge 3 weeks before the start of the first gulf war (Mech Infantry 1st CAV). Who knows? I don´t. I suppose I would have done my job. You too probably. The times were diffrent.

Oh Yeah I used to surf OB Pier quite often.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:07 PM
 
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Interesting note about the confusion of veteran benefits...it does depend on dates served. Depending on eligibility for various things like long term care, a veterans pension, aid and attendance...and it is so confusing...specialists need cheat sheets for all the various campaigns.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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I served for 20 years, spread out over a 24 year period [I got out and did 4 years of college in the middle]. I served during many campaigns, but did not participate in many of them.

At my last duty station with 6 months to go before I was forced to retire, I got sucked into Kosovo.

After my retirement, it was my Kosovo Medal that got me into the VFW. At the time, I thought a lot about all the other men I had served with. Many of whom had served 20 years like I did. But most of those guys would never be allowed to join the VFW even the ones who served for 20 years. It was a fluke that in my career, I just happened to be serving at the exact base, at the exact time, to get pulled into Kosovo.

At my VFW post, one old guy is a big mucky-muck [former Post Commander, former State Commander, blah blah], I asked him about his service. He did 20 years on Active Duty as a bar tender at one base his entire career stateside. His brother was in the Army and had gone to Korea when it was a hot battle zone, and had gotten killed. This guy got permission to fly to Korea to escort his brother's body back to the states. He landed in Korea one day and flew out the next day. That was enough to give him Korea service, and made him eligible for the VFW. A bar tender who less in Korea less than 24 hours. Now he is a big mucky-muck in the VFW. Everyone claps and applauds his service and honors the big hero.

It is bizarre thing how it all works out.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:01 PM
 
Location: The South
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I served in the US Army from 1957 to 1960. Fifteen months in Korea. I thought about joining the American Legion and inquired if I was eligible and I'm not.

Eligibility Information
If you have served federal active duty in the United States Armed Forces during any of the war eras listed below, and have been honorably discharged or are still serving -- you are eligible for membership in The American Legion!

*August 2, 1990 to today(Operation Desert Shield/Storm)December 20, 1989 to January 31, 1990(Operation Just Cause - Panama)August 24, 1982 to July 31, 1984(Lebanon/Grenada)February 28, 1961 to May 7, 1975(Vietnam)June 25, 1950 to January 31, 1955(Korea)December 7, 1941 to December 31, 1946(World War II)April 6, 1917 to November 11, 1918(World War I)
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Monnem Germany/ from San Diego
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something tells me that shooting a surfer from the Ocean Beach Pier would leave me unfullfilled. Anybody else go through this?
Still wonder why the OP would want to shoot me????

Shooting the OB pier is another matter.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Nothing wrong with serving during peace time. You can't control when you were born.

I have a buddy whose father in law has license plates that say "Vietnam Era Veteran" because he was in the Army during the war but spent his time in a motor pool at Ft. Bliss.

I'm not a member of the American Legion or VFW, never really saw the benefit in joining either as I'm not a drinker and don't really socialize much.
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:35 PM
 
Location: The South
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My neighbor, a WW2 veteran recently gave me a 2012 October issue of the VFW magazine. It had an article titled "KOREA'S DMZ". The article gives some facts about serving in Korea during peacetime.
Between 1955 and 1994, 92 Americans died in hostile actions along the DMZ or elsewhere on the Korean peninsula.
I served in Korea and I didn't realize there were that many deaths. It was an eye opener for me. If you have any interest in the Korean War, you should get a copy of this article.
I tried to find a back issue of the magazine on the net and I did locate some, however for some reason, the article (pages 30-36) are not in the archived issue.
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:42 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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article titled "KOREA'S DMZ". The article gives some facts about serving in Korea during peacetime.
I was stationed in South Korea (Republic Of Korea) twice. 1972 and 1984, from my recollection, the DMZ was considered a "Combat Zone", with combat pay if stationed there over 30 days, during the 70's.

I was there when this happened: "November 1984: nine North Korean soldiers and one South Korean soldier die, and one American soldier is wounded during the firefight that erupted when a North Korean security detail chased a defecting Soviet citizen (Vasily Matusak) across the MDL into the southern-controlled sector of the Joint Security Area.". I met one of the U.S. Soldiers who was involved with the fitfight and got a tour of where he was...

Good listing of incidents here: List of border incidents involving North Korea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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You join to serve and be ready should the need arise. Some choke or freeze at their first real experience. Some of them overcome their initial freeze and perform. Some never recover. No one knows how they'll react in an emergency situation until it happens. Even with firefighting training in the Navy, we still had some people freeze or panic when we had a real fire. However, next time we had a fire, they did what was expected of them. My first ship had 10 guys killed in a main steam leak inthe fire room (USS Iwo Jima LPH-2). Most of those who were there when it happened were able to continue. Two went crazy and were removed from the ship.
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