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You do get that the SEALs are part of the Navy, right?
I think OP realizes that, but, given the Seals have a mandatory minimum 6 year enlistment, OP is concerned about whether a sailor's Seals contract would replace his original contract as far as time commitment goes or whether it is merely tacked onto the time he's already committed to serve (which is where his 9 year figure came from).
I think OP realizes that, but, given the Seals have a mandatory minimum 6 year enlistment, OP is concerned about whether a sailor's Seals contract would replace his original contract as far as time commitment goes or whether it is merely tacked onto the time he's already committed to serve (which is where his 9 year figure came from).
YES!!!!!!!!Thank god somebody understood the original question.
In Air Force Instruction AFI 36-2107, active duty service commitments (ADSCs) are listed for certain specialties; the Navy likewise has similar policies, since they're reiterations of DoD instructions. The text from the AFI:
1.1.3. Members usually serve new ADSCs concurrently with existing ADSCs. However, members serve ADSCs for Funded Legal Education Program/Excess Leave Program (FLEP/ELP) (Table 1.1.), Educational Leave of Absence (ELA) program (Table 1.1.) and health professions officer education/training (Table 1.2.) after fulfilling all previously existing initial ADSCs and in accordance with special pays which require a contractual agreement as prescribed by ASD(HA).
1.1.4. An ADSC does not establish and is independent of a date of separation.
1.1.4.1. Enlisted personnel serve on active duty in accordance with their enlistment contracts.
As an example, when I was commissioned I had a four-year active commitment as an officer. After pilot training I had an additional six year ADSC, which started the day I graduated. This was tacked on to my existing commitment. As a result, since I had been in a year when I finished pilot training, my total initial service commitment was seven years, the year past plus the six ahead. Had I withdrawn from pilot training there would have been a two year commitment for PCS and training, which as a concurrent ADSC would end before my commissioning commitment.
Unless the SEALs have special rules like the ones in 1.1.3 above, it looks like a Navy enlisted person with three years served at the conclusion of SEAL training would be obligated a total of nine years at which point he'd be eligible for separation.
Last edited by SluggoF16; 01-07-2015 at 12:18 PM..
do they have to fulfill the Seals contract along with the Navy contract they already signed? Or do they just serve out their Seals contract? For ex. If somebody signed a Navy contract to serve active duty as a firefighter for 4 years. After his first year he decides he wants to be a Seal. Will he have to serve 9 years active duty (3 left on his original contract + 6 for Seals) or will he simply have to serve 6 years active duty with the Seals, since I'm assuming his Seals contract will supersede his previous Navy contract.
Path 1: Enlist as a civilian ?
Path 2: Enlist while in the Navy and apply for a transfer ?
Path 3: Enlist from another branch of military service ?
I never met anyone in Special Operations who was concerned about the length of commitment. Whether it be 6 years or 9 years, they were going to be a Seal, Green Beret, etc. That was their concern.
He would serve 6 years total enlisted....maybe. It could be that he would be required to serve 6 years from the date he opted for SEAL......most likely. Thats what happens when you opt to reup. My original commit was for 6 years....at 4 years I did a reup for 6 more. Technically I was discharged from my original 6 year term and then reenlisted for a 6 year term with a 2 year reserve. So I only completed 4 years then another 6 for the new enlistment.
I am thinking that the most likely outcome would be that the SEAL enlistment would be treated just like a reup. He would be discharged from the original contract and the SEAL contract for 6 yrs would begin at that point.
In no case would he serve 3 more to complete the original enlistment and then another 6 for being a SEAL.
Last edited by justanokie; 01-07-2015 at 11:05 PM..
The community that I served within, required an initial 6-year contract. Two years to allow for schooling and four years to work off that schooling.
I suspect that from the date that you graduate BUDs you would sign a new contract. That new contract supersedes any previous contracts.
Actually the contract is started before you even start BUD/S.
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