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Old 07-27-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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Good day!

I turned 41 years old last March 2013. I am very much interested to join the Air Force. I know I am overage. Is it possible to apply for a age waiver? I have a bachelors degree. I completed 12 units of Masteral Degree and two semesters of Nursing. I also completed a certificate in Computer Programming and recently I completed a certificate in medical billing and coding. I passed the exam, hence I am currently a certified medical billing and coding specialist and certified medical administrative assistant. I have no experience yet with this field. I am also planning to continue my bachelors' degree in nursing. Will I still qualify for the Air Force and request an age waiver?

I have contacted couple of recruiters in Sacramento, CA but they said it is not possible anymore. I hope you could help me by providing me advise and more information.



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I am a recruiter for the Air Force. You do NOT need a waiver. You either have a lazy recruiter or a confused recruiter. Asthma BEFORE the age of 13 is NOT a disqualier. You need to get your medical records and have your recruiter submit them to MEPS. MEPS will clear you (baring other issue or there being more to the story). The regulation used for medical entrance says, "Asthma (493), including reactive airway disease, exercise-induced bronchospasm or asthmatic bronchitis, reliably diagnosed and symptomatic after the 13th birthday, does not meet the standard." (the standard for military entrance). As such, ashtma before age 13 is NOT an issue. There is no regulation anywhere that disqualifies people for ashtma before their 13th birthday... this is a very common misconception- even sometimes amoung recruiters.

I have personally put people in the Air Force who had childhood asthma without having to do any waivers or extra work. I've even gotten waivers for people with asthma after the 13th birthday who had medical records showing no symptoms or treatment for the past few years, and/or could pass a pulmonary function test. Asthma is often over-diagnosed, and MEPS realizes this.

See how the regulation says it has to be "RELIABLY" diagnosed? Becuase too many doctors just diagnose it without any real testing. The regulation goes on to say, "Reliable diagnostic criteria may include any of the following elements: substantiated history of cough, wheeze, chest tightness, and/or dyspnea that persists or recurs over a prolonged period of time, generally more than 12 months."
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:07 PM
 
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The only way you can join is as a nurse. Finish your BSN, and you can join up to age 47 (you said you had some nursing classes). Other than than, nope, not possible.

Also, please note, if you join over the age of 42 you have to sign that you are not age eligible to retire. 62 is the maximum age you can serve without a year to year high level waiver, so you likely would not earn retirement benefits.
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Old 08-01-2013, 08:26 PM
 
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Good day!

Thank you so much for your information. Can I ask what do you mean "62 is the maximum age I can serve? without a year to year high level waiver? why I would not earn retirement benefits? Is this the case for those nurses who join over the age of 42?
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Old 08-01-2013, 08:31 PM
 
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Good day again!

My cousin is also interested in joining the Air Force as Health Professional. She is already a nurse. Unfortunately, she is taking the lowest dose (2mg) of maintenance for mild depression. She cannot stop the medicine otherwise her mild depression will recur. But even though she has maintenance she lives a normal life. She is very normal, have two jobs, have two little kids and a husband and a very smart woman who always top any classes and training. I know this may be a disqualifying conditions for her to join the Air Force. Is it possible that she will get a certifications from her doctor that she is only taking maintenance so that her mild depression will not recur, but the doctor will certify that she is very normal and is living a normal life? what advise can you provide so that she can still join the Air Force despite the fact that she has this medical condition which is not a hindrance for her to have a normal life? She is very much interested in joining the Air Force. In fact, she already planning to enroll in a work out program to make her physically prepared.
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:24 AM
 
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Rbyrhd,

No one can be 63 years old and in the military without a high level waiver. Therefore, if you join at age 43, you have to get out at age 62, thus serving 19 years and not earning a retirement. You have to make your own investments and your own retirement plan. It is possible that at 62, you can get a waiver to 63, and then 64, and then 65, but there is no upfront guarantee that will happen. People who join after the age of 42 just can't rely on retirement benefits as they might not happen.

I've never heard of any case where someone could join with unresolved depression or on current depression medications. I don't think that would have any chance of getting approved. She needs to resolve her depression. We generally won't let people with unresolved depression join. She'd be ripped away from home, friends, family, thrown into a completely different lifestyle, and possibly face serving in a war zone. We don't know what that will do to unresolved depression, and we don't want to push her to an unsafe limit or place.
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Old 08-11-2013, 12:16 PM
 
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Good day Ma'am!

I talked to somebody who was been in the military training for navy unit. I want to ask some questions regarding the training because according to him they took all his belongings and send them back to his family including his cellphones. Is this the same with the air force training? you can't communicate at all to your family? can I ask how long will the training be for the commission officer? is there an initiation? how rigorous is the physical training? is the training for commission officer is more on classrooms lectures? thank you so much...
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:47 AM
 
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Not sure if this is addressed to me... I'm Air Force, no Navy, so I don't want to tell you incorrectly. Start a new thread and you'l porbably get some responses.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:05 PM
 
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Good day dmarie!

I would like to ask if it is true that during military training at air force, they check your closets where your clothes and belongings are? for what purpose?
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Old 08-17-2013, 10:57 PM
 
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Sorry! I totally misread it. No, they don't take your stuff. They lock up things you don't need to help keep you focused, but you get it back upon graduation. They take your cell phone, and give it to you peridically to make calls home. You can write letters.

They check your lockers because they give you really specific rules. For example, you hangars have to be evenly spaced, shirts folded a certain way, no water left in your iron, etc. It is to teach you attention to detail, keep you busy, enforce discipline, and probably some other reasons I don't understand.
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Old 08-18-2013, 01:21 AM
 
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Sorry! I totally misread it. No, they don't take your stuff. They lock up things you don't need to help keep you focused, but you get it back upon graduation. They take your cell phone, and give it to you peridically to make calls home. You can write letters.

They check your lockers because they give you really specific rules. For example, you hangars have to be evenly spaced, shirts folded a certain way, no water left in your iron, etc. It is to teach you attention to detail, keep you busy, enforce discipline, and probably some other reasons I don't understand.
After going through boot camp in the Navy and spending 6 years air guard. I'll give it to you straight up about what boot camp is all about.

1.) Teach you traditions, regulations, and the day to day admin/HR stuff you need to survive and flourish in the military.

The main thing about boot camp is simulating stress..
2.) The reason days are long and you are sleep dreprived is

- while putting you through tasks which require attention to detail is to see how you respond to stress while short on sleep. It's the closest thing they can do to actual combat conditions..
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