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Old 04-08-2014, 06:15 AM
Location: San Antonio
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Originally Posted by mr bolo View Post
you could go to another recruiter and dont mention the drug use

if you were never arrested for drug use they wont know unless you tell them

While this could be true, the recruiter may have put comments into our world wide computer system. This system is designed so that people can't do that. It is based on identifying information, so if the recruiter had a full name and DOB, or a SSN, it might be in our system.

Or, during a security clearance investigation, friends could be questioned by federal agents and tell the investigators, now causing a fraud charge.
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Old 04-10-2014, 07:56 PM
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Ok telling the recruiter was stupid. Some things are better left unsaid.
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Old 03-28-2017, 10:48 PM
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My son was disqualified from the Air Force for ADHD,ODD,anxiety, and use of growth hormone. Which he used for short stature. He hasn't taken and meds four four years . We had him evaluated by a PHD and he cleared him of all of the above except for growth hormone use . But they still disqualified him could you explain why . Thanks
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Old 03-29-2017, 07:05 AM
Location: San Antonio
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Page 41 of the department of defense regulation, DODI 6130 states that "Current or history of pituitary dysfunction (253), to include history of growth hormone use" is a disqualification. I'm not a doctor, so I don't know why, but it is. I'm not sure of the long term side effects of needing growth hormone, but you could look up his medication. Perhaps it causes muscle or bone issues, or long term kidney or liver issues or something they DOD is worried about having to treat or pay for later. Just an idea.

Also, ODD is a complete disqualification. How can you expect the MILITARY, where following orders and obeying authority is life or death, to accept people who have had a disorder that literally means they have trouble with authority and rules? Same regulation, page 47, "Current or history of disturbance of conduct, impulse control (312.3), oppositional
defiant (313.81), other behavior disorders (313), or personality disorder" are disqualifications.

Page 48 specifies that anxiety is a DQ, current or PAST. So he has had a history of coping with life, and you think they're going to take him into a situation where he will face more stress than average? What caused his anxiety? If it was just normal life and not a traumatic event, how will handle a deployment, watching someone die, long hours, being away from home, etc? There is too much of a risk he will become symptomatic again.

With ADD/ADHD, he is disqualified unless:
(1) The applicant has not required an Individualized Education Program or work
accommodations since the age of 14. (Does he meet this requirement?)
(2) There is no history of comorbid mental disorders. (He does NOT meet this requirement. This means only ONE disorder was diagnosed, he was diagnosed with at least 4. ODD, Anxiety, ADD, and ADHD. They'll waive ONE and only ONE diagnosis)
(3) The applicant has never taken more than a single daily dosage of medication or has
not been prescribed medication for this condition for more than 24 cumulative months after the
age of 14. (was he on meds for more than 24 months? or was he ever on more than 1 medication at a time? If so, his clinical symptoms and treatment were too severe for us to take the chance).
(4) During periods off of medication after the age of 14, the applicant has been able to
maintain at least a 2.0 grade point average without accommodations. (Can you prove this with transcripts and pharmacy records?)

Overall, the military isn't a place for someone who has a history of these disorders because the extreme stress and lack of control can cause them to pop back up.
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Old 03-29-2017, 07:17 AM
Location: San Antonio
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Listen, I have Anxiety Disorder. It developed after I'd been serving for over 10 years, I didn't join with it. It's so bad that I have to take 2 medications to get through the day without chest pain and sweating from panic attacks that happen for no reason.

If I wanted to get "cleared" by a PhD I could easily do that. I could go in, answer the questions the right way, tell him I'd stopped taking the medications, was happy and clam, sleeping well, and not having panic attacks. I could stay I learned how to meditate and started exercising, and all my symptoms went away.

I could get cleared if it was in my best interest... but these disorders rarely ever completely go away. If they do go away, there is a high likelihood that life events will bring them back.

Getting "cleared" doesn't mean you no longer have any issues, getting cleared means you answered the questions the right way. Him being "cleared" holds FAR FAR FAR less weight then the original symptoms, original diagnosis, and original needs for treatment.
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