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Old 12-24-2014, 05:12 AM
 
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These are two generals that are quite controversial, from what I have heard MacArthur was all about using nukes against China during the Korean War which is why he was dismissed and Patton treated his troops very badly, beating them and constantly treating them as if they were trash.
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Old 12-24-2014, 05:49 AM
 
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Doug fell apart after Dec. 7th and stayed in his hotel room rather than ordering an air attack on the Japanese in Taiwan. He did not have supplies moved to Battan despite that was where he wanted to hold out against the Japanese. He should have been retired after escaping from the PI.
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Old 12-24-2014, 06:43 AM
 
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I don't even know where to begin, so I won't. A few minutes on Google will explain why you shouldn't listen to whoever you hear this stuff from.
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Old 12-24-2014, 07:11 AM
 
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Greatest generals of modern time.
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Old 12-25-2014, 10:06 AM
 
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General Patton, a true legend, a great general, leads aggressively from the front.
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Old 12-25-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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After reading a biography on MacArthur and reading about his conduct in WWI he went way up in my book. Patton as seen in the biopic was always there. In any case a military man's legacy can be made in a single incident as many do not survive to see another.
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Old 12-25-2014, 05:34 PM
 
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These are two generals that are quite controversial, from what I have heard MacArthur was all about using nukes against China during the Korean War which is why he was dismissed and Patton treated his troops very badly, beating them and constantly treating them as if they were trash.
Patton was a hard azz but led from the front have you researched the men you ridicule ?
Gregory Peck despised Ole Doug before he portrayed him in film .
A boyhood friend father rolled with Patton and was damned proud of that he said he would follow him into hell!
So quit listining to comrade teacher and think for yourself!
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Old 12-25-2014, 05:42 PM
 
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Both fascinating figures from American military history. Patton had inherited wealth. As a junior officer he had the cash to own and maintain polo ponies at a time when most newly minted officers were just getting by. During maneuvers just prior to the US getting involved in WW2 he had his own private aircraft available to monitor the progress of his troops. Despite his reputation as a tough hard charging commander in real life Patton had a high pitched squeaky voice that sounded decidedly unmilitary.

MacArthur's Mom rented a room in a hotel overlooking West Point so she could monitor her son's progress through his cadet years. As Army Chief of Staff in the 30's MacArthur kept his half Scottish half Filipina mistress in a Washington DC apartment available for visits. He was deadly afraid his mother would find out and kept the mistress under tight wraps. Even though he did make some visits to the troops in the war zone in the Southwest Pacific his troops often referred to his as Dugout Doug.
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Old 12-26-2014, 02:23 PM
 
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Both George & Doug proved themselves under fire in World War 1,Patton finished 5th in the Decathlon 1912 Olympic Games,killed a number of Poncho Villa's men in a fair gunfight while in Mexico with Black Jack Pershing.Mac was never forgiven by some for dispersing WW1 bonus soldiers during the Depression but he was never one to hide in a bunker...
Two great movie stars played them I suggest you watch them both...
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:20 PM
 
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it is my understanding that both men post war were significantly responsible for the successful transition and management of occupations.

When I was there, Germans loved GEN Patton even yet. When he fought, he fought. When he won, he treated them with respect and brought them into part of the governance seeking to bridge gaps..

Understand that Gen MacA did a lot to transition the Japanese occupation etc. Heard he had an understanding of the Japanese? oriental? mindset which was helpful.

Just what I have been told but how you keep the peace shows as much as how you fight a war.

P.S. I never warmed up to GEN MacA for one reason or another. The lack of preparation and leaving the Phillipines probablly
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