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View Poll Results: Have you served or fought in any of these? (Multiple Choice)
World War II (1939-1945) 5 2.53%
Korean War (1950-53) 7 3.54%
Vietnam War (1960-1975) 57 28.79%
Bay of Pigs Invasion (1961) 3 1.52%
Grenada Intervention (1983) 12 6.06%
Panama Invasion (1989) 11 5.56%
Persian Gulf War (1990-1991) 34 17.17%
Bosnia and Herzegovina Intervention (1995-96) 12 6.06%
Iraq Invasion (2003-) 31 15.66%
Military Service (No Engagement) 62 31.31%
Military Service (Unusual Engagement) 31 15.66%
Afghanistan 2001 - "Operation Enduring Freedom" (added110224) 4 2.02%
U.S. Army 5 2.53%
U.S. Air Force 1 0.51%
U.S. Navy 4 2.02%
U.S. Marine Corps 1 0.51%
U.S. Coast Guard 0 0%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 198. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-10-2008, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Thanks for your response. I added an optiion just for you and others that served in special circumstances.

May I ask that you vote now, please!
I voted, I'm in the "unusual engagement" category. Yemen wasn't much of an engagement. For the time, it was an isolated incident, so I took no offense to being left off your original survey. Thanks for including a category for me.

It was pretty bizzare, though, being there for a month following the attack. We had re-fueled only a month prior at the same dock where the USS Cole was attacked. There were so many small boats around that security was almost non-existent. Boats to take the trash, boats to bring supplies, boats to tend the lines, etc. Anyone could have sneaked up.

Our ship was a smaller Frigate. That bomb would have blown us in half. The Cole was high tech Destroyer and a prize target. She didn't sink, though. We got her fixed up and towed her out of there. The USS Cole was repaired and is still in service, FYI.
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Old 01-10-2008, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I served in the US Navy Reserve 1963 - 69p in 'nam 66-67 (forty years ago!) in the River Assault Group (PBRs and Swift Boats).

Mikey - did you ever wonder if the stuff you did was legal or not? I know some of my "action" was questionable but as an enlisted man I never asked, but I did think about it..

The problem with our current war is that enough people and companies are getting rich enough off the war spending to justify our military and civilian causalities. IMHO their and the Iraqi’s lives are being sacrificed on the Altar of Mammon.

That is just wrong. War to defend your people and your land against an invasion is justifiable. An invasion to protect some international corporation’s profit is obscene!

PS. I assume you meant Served not serviced.

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Old 01-10-2008, 06:56 AM
 
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Hey Mikey, I was a "12B" combat engineer too, mainly bridge building while serving in Germany. Went to jump school at Ft Benning too. Didn't attend any special ops stuff like you did, but went on plenty of cold war era patrols along the former East German border in the 1970s.
I was on a visit to Missouri last year, and took a detour off I44 to go visit good old Ft Leonard Wood and the Museum on that post that is loaded with exhibits about all of the Army's combat engineering units. If you haven't seen it, try to visit some time.
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Actually, I went to The Corps of Engineers School at Ft Belvoir, VA and was segwayed from Construction Engineers to Combat with just the issuance of special orders. I took my jump school training at Fort Bragg. There is a fantastic Airborne Museum there now and every Paratrooper should see it. Here is the link...hope it's ok to post...for all to share:

Museums (http://www.bragg.army.mil/18abn/museums.htm - broken link)

We fondly referred to Ft Leonard Wood as Fort "Lost in the woods" at the time. I will definitely get to that museum if ever I get to Missouri.

Ah....fond memories!
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Old 01-10-2008, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Looking East and hoping!
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OnTheRoad-Thanks-I do dabble in other forums-LOL.

Our wonderful men and women who serve deserve so much more than they get as far as respect, health care,etc. Life is far from easy for them or their families who are often left behind-I know all about that.

BTW while my husband served in VN his ship, The Morganthau, blew out the largest enemy ship loaded with explosives.
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Old 01-10-2008, 07:03 AM
 
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I served in the US Navy Reserve 1963 - 69p in 'nam 66-67 (forty years ago!) in the River Assault Group (PBRs and Swift Boats).

Mikey - did you ever wonder if the stuff you did was legal or not? I know some of my "action" was questionable but as an enlisted man I never asked, but I did think about it..

The problem with our current war is that enough people and companies are getting rich enough off the war spending to justify our military and civilian causalities. IMHO their and the Iraqi’s lives are being sacrificed on the Altar of Mammon.

That is just wrong. War to defend your people and your land against an invasion is justifiable. An invasion to protect some international corporation’s profit is obscene!

PS. I assume you meant Served not serviced.
As an Officer I never voiced those opinions in front of my men but I did question some of the orders we got and shared them with my CO. Enlisted men are taught right from basic training to follow and officers are taught to lead, questioning only the safety of their men. The NCOs are in between and most smart officers heed their comments.

The current war is a tricky one as so many people and entities are involved and there is a large grey area.

I believe serviced is the term the OP selected but it's cool with me.
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Old 01-10-2008, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I was serviced several times but rarely served. punning deliberate.

Sorry. I am really starting to bothered by too many repressed memories.
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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In 1965 I enlisted for three years in the Army and, after all training, spent my two years (1966-67) overseas as a track vehicle mechanic with a Pershing missile unit in Germany. For me, like many others who were in Germany, the the years provided many good memories. At that time Vietnam was not such a hot topic as it later became in 1969 thru 1971.
In 1968 I returned to civilian life in my home Chicago and started my first job just as the city hosted the memorable Democratic Convention. I had conservative views regarding the war and, at first, didn't like the anti-war demonstrators. In the next 18 months I went thru some derailing personal changes and by the end of 1970, I was also against the Vietnam war. Since then I've been against all the wars.
Although I've never experienced combat I still feel a connection to those who have been in Vietnam, empathizing with them and admire their endurance. I will gladly salute anyone who has been thru the horrific situations in that jungle war. This also goes for Yeledaf (with whom I argue in other threads), but I'm glad he survived and has managed to get his life together after the ordeal. Here's my tip of the hat to him and all the other veterans.
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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In a way, this question is a lot like asking a person what their job is. Your job is whatever you gotta do. Some people are proud of their job. Some people, though, recognize it is being an enabler for the haves to exploit the have-nots, and there are very few jobs in the private sector that do not fall into that category.

When our nation finds itself embroiled in some conflict or other, the American people do what they gotta do. That does not necessarily reflect who the individual is.
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Journey's End
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Thanks Greg W, bily 4, recycled and Visvaldis for sharing your service records. Yes, served, and also military service.

And Eastern Roamer many thanks for the educational lesson and sharing your experiences.
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Journey's End
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Perhaps out of context, you personally may find this question like asking a person what they do for a living, but for me it is more about both recognising and appreciating where members on this forum are coming from when they have responded in threads. And at the same time giving recognition for their service.

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In a way, this question is a lot like asking a person what their job is. Your job is whatever you gotta do. Some people are proud of their job. Some people, though, recognize it is being an enabler for the haves to exploit the have-nots, and there are very few jobs in the private sector that do not fall into that category.

When our nation finds itself embroiled in some conflict or other, the American people do what they gotta do. That does not necessarily reflect who the individual is.
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