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Old 11-18-2011, 05:45 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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why would they need one?

Do you really think that people LIE about being a veteran so they can get a free meal at Golden Corral or a discount at Salvation Army on Wednesdays?

I have never had anyone doubt me. It would be reprehensible for someone to say they were a vet when they were not. However, even the occasional lie isn't going to make that much difference in the grand scheme of things.

Less government please.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:53 AM
 
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why would they need one?

Do you really think that people LIE about being a veteran so they can get a free meal at Golden Corral or a discount at Salvation Army on Wednesdays?

I have never had anyone doubt me. It would be reprehensible for someone to say they were a vet when they were not. However, even the occasional lie isn't going to make that much difference in the grand scheme of things.

Less government please.

20yrsinBranson
Agree with your overall point...If I were a betting man I'd bet that plenty of people lie at the Golden Corral on veteran's day...
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:45 AM
 
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why would they need one?

Do you really think that people LIE about being a veteran so they can get a free meal at Golden Corral or a discount at Salvation Army on Wednesdays?

I have never had anyone doubt me. It would be reprehensible for someone to say they were a vet when they were not. However, even the occasional lie isn't going to make that much difference in the grand scheme of things.

Less government please.

20yrsinBranson
Answer to the question in bold (above):
Yes.

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FOUR OUT OF FIVE WHO CLAIM TO BE Vietnam vets are not.
2,709,918 Americans served in uniform in Vietnam
1,713,823 of those were still alive as of August, 1995 (census figures).
~ During that same Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served in-country was: 9,492,958.
~ As of the August, 2000 Census, the surviving U.S. Vietnam Veteran population estimate was: 1,002,511.
During this Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served in-country was: 13,853,027.


Vietnam War Facts, Viper's Vietnam Veterans Pages
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:09 AM
 
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In the county of Saratoga NY they instituted a program called, "Return the Favor" for veterans. This card allows discounts at participating businesses in the area. You are required to bring your discharge record in order for them to issue the card.



http://www.saratogacountyny.gov/departments.asp?did=928
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:38 PM
 
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I have just read through this thread and I have found it to not only be very informative, but perhaps a little harsh in terms of opinions. I am to assume that everyone who is out here has faithfully sacrificed, served and selflessly gave of their time away from love ones and families; thus, having them to sacrifice so much as well! If you are a disable vet I whole heartily concur that unique benefits, cost and expenses should be provided on a more urgent and priority level. However, those that are NOT physically disabled or have NOT been diagnosed with a mental or emotional disability that are veterans should also be provided certain regards. To think something as small as an ID which allows those veterans that are not disabled but have been honorably discharged prior to serving 20 years is clearly not asking for too much given what ALL veterans have endured in service to our country. I have been deployed more than once during the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns and have faithfully served for 11 years. I am NOT staying in for 20 years and would like to be able to proudly provide a veterans ID simply because I earned the right to! I agree with the writer that it is NOT about free lunch although there are a lot of benefits and discounts that I would think everyone could use given the Furlough and Sequestration! Yes, I support both, the bill and the idea of DMV providing the ID and would not mind paying whatever the cost. By the way, I completed the VA application as I think it shall be a great benefit in the long haul but in order to even get the insurance should one desire, you have to meet a financial criteria so completing the application doesn't mean you are going to be able to get an ID. Just thought I would throw that out there as well.
Bless you all and thanks so much for your service and immeasurable sacrifice!
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Somewhere.
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According to the provisions of the bill the issuance of the ID cards is "budget neutral". It will be up to the VA to determine the overall costs of the ID card then it allows the VA to charge that much to recover the costs of the card.

The veteran's, who fit the profile of the bill, won't get their cards for free. The cards will be issued by the VA as a federally recognized military service card (as proven by a person's DD214) then the veteran will pay X amount so the VA can recover the costs.

How much will that be? I have no idea. $15? $20? $25?

To step in a bit on this debate, has anyone ever tried to get a copy of their DD214 once they've lost it? It's a nightmare, at best. If veterans are willing to pay for a card to show proof they are a veteran instead of having to carry around and potentially lose their DD214, then what's the fuss? If they didn't serve, they won't have a DD214 and therefore, no ID Card. I see no reason, if there's no actual expense to the VA, to deny this to veterans. It's actaully a win win for the VA in that if the cards cost $ to make and they charge $$ to veterans, then there's obviously profit so how is that going to hurt the government budgets or our economy?

I've been around the military my entire life and it has been my experience when a veteran is given a "discount" of any kind they are grateful and quite often try to refuse. There are bad apples in every group meaning there are some who will take advantage of a given situation, that's true. Most times, they are not the ones who've honorably served.

Look at the face of veteran, especially those senior veterans, when you tell them, "Thank you for your service!" and you'll be surprised by how taken aback they are for the recognition. All veterans who honorably served should be recognized by whatever means possible, IMO. I'm not a veteran, just the child, grandchild, neice, ex-wife, sister-in-law, daughter-in-law, aunt and cousin of many veterans. More importanly, I'm the EVER PROUD CHAMPION AND SUPPORTER OF ALL VETERAN'S PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE!
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Somewhere.
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i have just read through this thread and i have found it to not only be very informative, but perhaps a little harsh in terms of opinions. I am to assume that everyone who is out here has faithfully sacrificed, served and selflessly gave of their time away from love ones and families; thus, having them to sacrifice so much as well! If you are a disable vet i whole heartily concur that unique benefits, cost and expenses should be provided on a more urgent and priority level. However, those that are not physically disabled or have not been diagnosed with a mental or emotional disability that are veterans should also be provided certain regards. To think something as small as an id which allows those veterans that are not disabled but have been honorably discharged prior to serving 20 years is clearly not asking for too much given what all veterans have endured in service to our country. I have been deployed more than once during the iraq and afghanistan campaigns and have faithfully served for 11 years. I am not staying in for 20 years and would like to be able to proudly provide a veterans id simply because i earned the right to! I agree with the writer that it is not about free lunch although there are a lot of benefits and discounts that i would think everyone could use given the furlough and sequestration! Yes, i support both, the bill and the idea of dmv providing the id and would not mind paying whatever the cost. By the way, i completed the va application as i think it shall be a great benefit in the long haul but in order to even get the insurance should one desire, you have to meet a financial criteria so completing the application doesn't mean you are going to be able to get an id. Just thought i would throw that out there as well.
Bless you all and thanks so much for your service and immeasurable sacrifice!

well said and thank you for your service!!

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Old 01-13-2014, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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Good idea to get VA card for vet discounts - although I believe Home Depot is now requiring an actual military ID.

Partial list of benefits by state: State Veteran's Benefits | Military.com

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE!
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Old 01-13-2014, 05:43 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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although I believe Home Depot is now requiring an actual military ID
My wife uses her Dependent ID Card: DD Form 1172 to get a discount at Home Depot and Lowes.
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Old 01-15-2014, 12:35 PM
 
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As stated multiple times above. Just go to the nearest Department of Veterans Affairs clinic/hospital and get a picture ID. Done.

So the point of the original poster would be in effect a 2nd government program that accomplishes the same thing as already in effect. And even if the bill had passed all would probably still have to go to the VA to obtain the exact same ID card. So what was the point of more legislation?

Most/all of the discounts that some have mentioned require a picture ID - not a piece of paper such as DD214.
Picture ID issued by the US government.

As far as paper DD214. There are many 'fake' veterans out there.

Just read the book:

STOLEN VALOR
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B.G. Burkett
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