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Old 08-05-2015, 11:15 AM
 
Location: The South
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I've always found it ironic that the military wants only the healthiest, best, brightest young people...to be willing to sacrifice their lives

It would make more sense to send broken people out to war rather than sacrificing the best & brightest.
Try to relate it to football. In most wars and football games the object is to win.
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Old 08-11-2015, 03:55 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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Zell Miller, former Marine and governor of Georgia, claimed he was given such a choice by a judge back in the 50's, and I believe him.
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Old 08-11-2015, 05:27 AM
 
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Is it not yet clear that offering the military as an option to prison is something that happened 25 or thirty years ago but does not happen now?
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Old 08-11-2015, 06:52 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Thank you ralph!!!
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Old 08-11-2015, 01:37 PM
 
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I've always found it ironic that the military wants only the healthiest, best, brightest young people...to be willing to sacrifice their lives

It would make more sense to send broken people out to war rather than sacrificing the best & brightest.
maybe back in the days when soldiers were used almost as "cannon fodder" with high combat casualties and many didnt even have education , but not in todays modern military

Ive met military veterans that couldnt even read or write, they wouldnt make it through the training and schools today.
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Old 08-11-2015, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Atlantis
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If I was in the military, in a fox hole with another soldier and we were out numbered a few to one by an approaching enemy. . . .

I would stand a better chance at surviving if the guy next to me had a few serious assaults on his record, got sent into the army to avoid going back to prison and had some scars from his previous life.

Than trying to make it out alive with a guy next to me that had a 3.8 GPA in high school, nothing on his record besides a traffic ticket and played by the rules prior to joining the army.
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Old 08-11-2015, 09:20 PM
 
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If I was in the military, in a fox hole with another soldier and we were out numbered a few to one by an approaching enemy. . . .

I would stand a better chance at surviving if the guy next to me had a few serious assaults on his record, got sent into the army to avoid going back to prison and had some scars from his previous life.

Than trying to make it out alive with a guy next to me that had a 3.8 GPA in high school, nothing on his record besides a traffic ticket and played by the rules prior to joining the army.
Of course, the first fact is that you're not in the military.

The better chances are the ex-convict went AWOL from boot camp, got kicked out too soon even for a BCD and never made it to the theater. At any rate, he's far less likely to have your back when you need him than the guy who plays by the rules.
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Old 08-12-2015, 06:15 AM
 
Location: SW OK (AZ Native)
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Of course, the first fact is that you're not in the military.

The better chances are the ex-convict went AWOL from boot camp, got kicked out too soon even for a BCD and never made it to the theater. At any rate, he's far less likely to have your back when you need him than the guy who plays by the rules.
EXACTLY. Someone who's been looking out for #1 his whole life is unlikely to be altruistic in times of stress. His self-preservation instinct may be high, but it's generally at someone elses's expense. Without going into details, it's from personal experience as a commander
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:50 PM
 
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It was fairly common up until the last 10-20 years or so. Countless examples of highly decorated VETs who turned their lives around when given the chance.


One such: James Marshall Hendrix also known as Jimi Hendrix (as in THEE JIMI HENDRIX)....

He got caught riding around in cars his friends had stolen and was given the ultimatum to join or serve jail time. He soon joined the U.S. Army and enlisted on May 31, 1961. He completed his eight weeks of basic training at Fort Ord California and was assigned to the 101st Airborne Division and stationed at Fort Campbell Kentucky where he arrived on November 8th 1961. After completing his basic, paratrooper and jump training in just eight months he was awarded his prestigious Screaming Eagle patch on January 11th 1962 by Major General C.W.G. Rich.




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Old 08-20-2015, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Bridgeport, Chicago
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its true; its how I got in the Army in '98. I was facing a County charge for illegal possession of a weapon at 18 but about to graduate High School. I was out on bail and an Army recruiter happened to call me, I told him about the situation and right away he told me he could solve it - he went to court with me, talked to the judge and made an agreement that they would drop all charges since I would enlist in the Army. Changed my life I owe it all to that man.
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