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Old 09-22-2015, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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It doesn't sound to me like you understand the gravity of what you're doing, or you wouldn't even attempt that kind of second guessing on the value of someone else's service.
This is the thing.

My spouse has performed military funeral honors at over 800 funerals in the past 14 years he's served, has been a CACO, has been on teams receiving caskets of fallen servicemembers at the airport...I question both the character and honesty of somebody with so little respect for human life as expressed by the OP. Pretty disrespectful, really.
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Old 09-22-2015, 10:52 AM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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I'm in the military and just had to do a military funeral today.
It's a duty. It's an honorable duty. Hope you weren't too inconvenienced. I'm also inconvenienced several times per year on these issues...

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He was drafted into the Navy during the Vietnam War for 3 years and then got out as an E-3. That means that he didn't try at all while he was in, and then got out as soon as he could.
I am not allowed to say what I'm thinking. I was drafted (1968), my active duty obligation was 2 years. It could have been 18 months under some circumstances.

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If you're drafted and forced to do something, should you really get credit for doing it?
Never mind... Sorry, but I feel like puking...
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Old 09-22-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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I'm in the military and just had to do a military funeral today. He was drafted into the Navy during the Vietnam War for 3 years and then got out as an E-3. That means that he didn't try at all while he was in, and then got out as soon as he could.

If you're drafted and forced to do something, should you really get credit for doing it? Part of the speech that you give while presenting the flag is "please accept this flag as a symbol of our appreciation for your loved one's honorable and faithful service". It was hard for me to say that because I knew he didn't serve with "honorable and faithful service", he was only there because he was forced to do it.

I don't think draftees should get the honors and privileges of real veterans, who volunteered to serve. If you were drafted and stayed in afterwards, that's fine. But, if you did the years that you were drafted to do and then immediately got out, no.
Seriously? This post makes me sick. My family history is filled with military men and women. Some were drafted, some enlisted, some went through ROTC, one graduated from West Point.

Each and every one of them deserve the respect of a proper military funeral.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:01 AM
 
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Seriously? This post makes me sick. My family history is filled with military men and women. Some were drafted, some enlisted, some went through ROTC, one graduated from West Point.

Each and every one of them deserve the respect of a proper military funeral.
If you think that post is bad, check out his response to helping a homeless man.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:20 AM
 
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If you think that post is bad, check out his response to helping a homeless man.
Yup, he's quite a peach. No surprise at all to see he's identified himself as single.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:40 AM
 
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OP: You have a lousy attitude. The military could not function without draftees. 10 million men were drafted during WWII, and 2 million were drafted during Vietnam. Find something else to do; you have no business attending funerals of those who served.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:44 AM
 
Location: southwest TN
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What a judgmental attitude you have, OP. I suspect you have few friends, in or out of the military. Who are you to judge another's service? Who are you to judge another person, period. With your holier-than-thou attitude, please refuse on whatever grounds are available to you to even attend another military funeral. Our service men and women deserve better.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:53 AM
 
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You are very misguided in your thinking, OP.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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Would you have preferred that draftees dodge the draft?

Un-believable.
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:07 PM
 
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There are quite a few draftees who have been awarded the CMH.....by your false and vile reasoning, they don't deserve that either.

You need to get over yourself to say the least.
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