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Old 11-03-2017, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Should be shot. And Jane Fonder.
Roger that. Hanged is my preference, American Revolution style. Slowly, no snap.

He deserted and sought out the Taliban. That they treated the fool badly is too bad so sad IMO. Treason and stupidity both have consequences.

Fonda was the beginning. Whoever was POTUS at that time really opened the floodgates when he let her do her thing and not be subject to arrest.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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Disgraceful!
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:06 PM
 
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Fonda was the beginning. Whoever was POTUS at that time really opened the floodgates when he let her do her thing and not be subject to arrest.
Lyndon Johnson, IMO the reason we stayed in Vietnam instead of getting out, because his good old boys were making money off of the blood of our soldiers.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Central Massachusetts
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What say ye fellow veterans?

Army officer recommends no jail time for Bowe Bergdahl, attorney says

Jes don't seem raht ta me!
As a retired soldier I can understand everyone here and their reason for tough and even severe punishment. Certainly in our country's history we have given the ultimate punishment to deserters and treasonous individuals.

I have been on the fence over capital punishment sometimes going one way then the other. As damaging and horrible his actions are I think he got the punishment from us he deserves. One reason for this is he will have trouble with employment and other aspects of life so much so that I predict here that he takes his own life. When that happens people here will applaud and cheer. I will feel the opposite. I will feel sad that a soldier with the potential he had made the choice he did.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:57 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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I expected he would receive significant jail time. I think the prosecution recommended 14 years. Must have had a really good defense lawyer. The dishonorable discharge though is serious punishment. Will have a really hard time getting any kind of job.
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:27 PM
 
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Roger that. Hanged is my preference, American Revolution style. Slowly, no snap.

He deserted and sought out the Taliban. That they treated the fool badly is too bad so sad IMO. Treason and stupidity both have consequences.

Fonda was the beginning. Whoever was POTUS at that time really opened the floodgates when he let her do her thing and not be subject to arrest.
Someone who doesn't know who was president at the time doesn't know enough about the situation to have an informed opinion on what should happen to anyone then.
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Old 11-03-2017, 05:54 PM
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I am surprised and angered that he will spend no time in prison.

Disgraceful IMO.
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Old 11-03-2017, 06:20 PM
 
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I'm not surprised based on the Judge's comments earlier this week. By saying he was under no illusion he wasn't going to be promoted and that he plans on retiring next year, it was clear that he was not going to bow to pressure from the CINC to impose a sentence he did not feel fit the totality of the offenses. We see only the desertion but I bet there was a bit more to the whole story (as veterans we should know this is about par for the course). In the end, Col Nance acted as a honorable Judge, not a political hack to appease the masses. I like this guy!
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Old 11-04-2017, 09:52 AM
 
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I can see and respect the decision.

He left and got captured, then spent the next few years under the Taliban, I am sure this specific thing weighed heavily on the decision to send him to prison or not.

I understand about the issues revolving around sending people off looking for him, and no matter how the gov wants to spin it, this is exactly what happened, however, the gov should have included in their decision that he in fact voluntarily walked off base, not captured during a combat engagement. The military leaders should have probably taken this into consideration and not get on the hype train about "leave no one behind." While Bergdahl of course is the reason people went out doing things they other wise would not do, I cannot blame him solely for idiotic decisions of military leaders; I think it was far more political reasons for getting all crazy about finding him rather than pragmatic operational and even ethical reasons.

So taken everything into account, I do think the decision was a fair one, and again, his being captured and held for years by the Taliban being the main factor. If he would have ended up on a beach in India partying instead, then I would feel he deserves jail time.

Additionally, and difficult to explain so shortly, but there is this strange thing about getting a captured soldier back, then putting him in jail, for something like desertion (not murder or something).
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Old 11-04-2017, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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What say ye fellow veterans?

Army officer recommends no jail time for Bowe Bergdahl, attorney says

Jes don't seem raht ta me!
sounds like he was mentally unstable and should never have been in uniform from the start.....the Army ****ed up by letting him serve - we need to keep these oddballs out of our military. CinC needs to get his mouth shut about the penalty - undue influence isn't how UCMJ is supposed to work.
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